Ariel Sharon still in coma

Anyone else think its weird that this 82 year old guy is still being kept alive in a coma. I honestly thought he was dead, He’s been in a coma since 2006. Is there any chance this guy can even recover something like this? I don’t know why, this just weirds me out for some reason.

And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Maybe they don’t have living wills in Israel?

Doctors will keep someone as a potted plant forever,unless they signed a living will.

That’s alright by me! I told my family, as long as there is oxygen and food, keep running it into my body. Nobody gets my eyeballs if there’s a one in a million chance that I will have an opportunity to use them one more time!
On the OP, however, I’m rather sad that Sharon became ill. I rather liked the old boy, and, I think that any country that has a leader with any kind of gizzard, which defines Sharon, can only do well.

Best wishes,
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He can’t be the only one, but no, it’s not something I’d want.

No.

It sounds like his family wants him kept alive, but for the sake of argument I’ll point out that not all living wills say ‘pull the plug on me.’ Some people do want doctors use all available means to keep them alive no matter how objectively hopeless it is. This article details his current status: he is breathing on his own, most of his brain is gone, he’s lost (I’m guessing here) 50 percent of his former weight, and his family won’t allow the doctors to remove his feeding tubes.

And that’s your right, but it’s rather selfish. I don’t know if this applies to eye donations in paricular, but organ donations are time-sensitive. If you’re a vegetable for years, by the time you die your organs may have degraded to the point where they are of no use to anyone.

No, no, no…he’s still in Tacoma. Not so weird when you consider that.

Its not weird. Its selfish. I’ve had him on my Death Pool list since before the coma. He is doing this just to spite me.

Living wills are fairly useless. What he needs (needed) is a Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care (or would if he was in the USA).

No doubt pneumonia or sepsis will take its toll soon. Pneumonia used to be called the old man’s friend for good reason. I have no doubt he’s getting top notch care, but humans were not intended to be bed ridden.

Yuppers. Get a trustworthy POA for healthcare, and make sure that the POA knows exactly what you want done if they have to take charge of your healthcare.

I’ve told mine that if I’ve no reasonable chance for recovery, I don’t want to be prolonged. No ventilators, tube feedings, IV nutrition, or antibiotics for infections. Just fluids and painkillers/anxiolytics until I move on from this vale of tears.

Shit man, I hadn’t heard of his death but just the other week I was actually thinking of this and assumed that he must be dead by now. Weird.

Me, too. There is no greater hell than to be helpless, useless, on a vent, tube fed with incipient bed sores. That is no life for me.

Over here, they will not pull your plug for any reason. (If you are a foreigner they will fly you home and look the other way.) It is possible Israeli law does not allow plug-pulling.

I would be interested in knowing.

They pulled the plug on Jesus. What’s the problem?

They do, but I believe his family is rather fundamentalist/orthodox jewish, and they don’t approve of them.

IIRC, the Romans did that to the other prisoners (breaking their legs so they’d die faster), but not to Jesus, because he was already dead.

Pulling the plug is not active killing. It’s quite passive, which is why it’s allowed while doctor-assisted suicide is not.

I have no clue what Israeli law says on the subject.

HOWEVER

IIRC Under millennia old Talmudic law, if his heart is beating and he’s breathing then he’s alive. If he’s alive, then removing the feeding tube would be murder.

I, like many Jews, feel that in the age of EEGs, defibrilators, heart and lung transplants etc the Talmudic definitions of life and death need to be updated. We don’t expect this to happen any time soon though.

The Sharons? They’re as non-religious as they come.