You and another vehicle simultaneously arrive at a 4-way intersection, controlled by 4-way STOP signs. You both have turn signals on, indicating you will NOT be crossing each other’s path.
What do you do?
I trust him. I just go.
I trust no one. I wait to see what he does before I move.
We sit and stare at each other for way too long, then both inch forward, and stop and go several times, before realizing we are not going to cross paths, then both go.
I agree. This isn’t like a situation where you’re turning right on red and trusting the turn signal of an approaching vehicle. In that case the vehicle is moving at speed and until I see it slowing down I’m not going to trust that it’s actually turning. But in this case we’re both coming from a dead stop, and if the other guy is not going where his signal indicates we’ll both have time to react to avoid a collision.
That doesn’t happen in the UK, but we do have mini-roundabouts where four roads have Give Way and a painted circle in the centre of the junction.
The general rule is to give way to the driver on the right (since we drive on the left), but if there are four drivers then it becomes an ‘After you, Claud’ situation. I always advise making eye contact with the driver on the right and edging forward.
Off the race track, driving is not a competitive sport and we would get nowhere if most of us did not have common sense
I live in a residential area in a pretty dense city, so the case of two or more drivers arriving at a four-way stop is pretty common. If all four arrive simultaneously, I wait to see if someone on my right or left decides they’ve arrived a microsecond earlier than me. If no one moves for a few seconds, I’ll usually gesture for the other driver to go (or they will gesture to me before I can initiate).
It’s all about eye contact, not stare down. You make eye contact with the other drivers and react to them or, if they don’t make any gestures, initiate a “go ahead” gesture. It seems like it ought to be a big delay, but really, I’m guessing less than 10 seconds of delay.
I don’t necessarily “wait” to see what he does, but I make my turn, keeping “mind” of what he’s doing in case he’s not doing what he signaled. One issue though, when you’re both turning in opposite directions you don’t necessarily see his turn signal light as it’s angled away from you. That’s rather annoying. Years ago when the fronts of cars were flatter, that wasn’t the issue it is today.
It’s a circle. Can’t you all enter at the same time? So long as there isn’t a vehicle in the section of the circle to your right, there shouldn’t be a problem.
When my grandfather was teaching me to drive, he told me to never trust the other guy’s turn signal until I see what movement actually occurs. Makes sense to me.
Because I actually stop at stop signs and seemingly no other person on Earth does, the answer is that we arrive at the stop sign at the same time, I stop, the other driver continues obliviously on his way and I go after the other driver.
There are two relevant laws in Texas if there are stop signs. (1) a car turning left should yield to a car coming from the opposite direction. (2) at an intersection with traffic control (stop signs, signals, whatever), one should enter the intersection when safe to do so and when the intersection can be cleared.
So, at an intersection with a traffic light, it’s a violation to stop in the middle of the intersection during a green light because traffic is backed up. One should wait until there’s room to get to the other side.
In the case of two drivers at a 4 way intersection with stop signs who are in no danger of colliding, there’s no problem with one waiting or both going at the same time, as long as they both come to a complete stop at the signs first.
There’s common practice of first come, first go at stop signs but the actual law doesn’t say anything about that. It’s left to the individual drivers to figure out how to safely get through, even if that means the first car to get to the intersection waits the longest.
Now that you mention it, that makes sense, but the OP didn’t say so, and for some reason I was imagining a situation where the vehicles were at right angles.