Ask me about my abortion

I have started a thread like this once before, long ago. I was reading the thread in the pit about anti-abortion picketers, and the usual arguments have been raised - that an abortion is a baby, not a group of cells, that no woman should ever be allowed to abort, etc.

So I thought maybe it was time for another thread. I’ve told my story before, as I have said. I was twenty years old before I started having sex. I was vaguely aware of the existence of condoms and birth control but had had almost no teaching in it. I came from a family and a culture that basically considered premarital sex to be the equivalant of setting your house on fire with your parents still in it, and pointing at them and laughing at them as you did it.

But I grew up in this country. So we had sex, and it was only a couple of times we went without protection, and then after that, we used it. Still, it only takes once and the damage was done.

I absolutely knew I didn’t want to have a child, and I talked it over with him. He said he would be willing to support me in whatever decision I made…and I made the abortion decision completely on my own. I won’t say he wasn’t relieved though.

I’d like to say I put in a lot of thought behind my decision but I didn’t. I have never wanted to have a child, ever. I’m 35 now and that visceral reaction has never changed. I can’t see how someone who adamantly doesn’t want a child could ever be a good mother.

I believe in adoption (open) whole-heartedly but it was not for me, either. I was born out of wedlock and my mother cast me aside and never looked back. It hurt me so much I was never willing to do that to a child.

And I wasn’t willing to go through pregnancy to bring a child into this world that was unwanted and unloved. There is no shortage of children being born, and I don’t believe in the sanctity of human life - that is, I don’t believe every child is imbued with a magical soul at conception and that I must work to preserve it.

So it wasn’t even a guilt factor for me. Much worse was the thought of my parents and my family and everyone I know disowning me and tossing me into the street, or worse, for having a child out of wedlock. I’ve seen how they treated my real mother (I was adopted by an aunt). She is worse than a pariah. Her engagement was broken. Her sister’s engagement was broken. Nobody would marry them. Granted, this was 1970s India. But to this day I was referred to as “her shame” and my adoptive mother’s “duty”. They still don’t talk to her much or welcome her into the family. She will always be an outsider. NFW was I doing that to myself or a child of my own.

So we went to Planned Parenthood. I was in my first trimester, of course. They were the most wonderful, nicest people ever. They asked me if I was sure. They gave me some counseling, which I hardly remember. They set up an appointment for a few days away and encouraged me to talk about it with friends and religious figures and damn near anybody I wanted. They asked me, “If we leave a message on your VM, can we say Planned Parenthood?” (I said no, please.)

I went for the appointment. For all of you anti-abortion people, I am sure it will please you to know that it hurt like all fuck. I cried, and cried, and cried, but never wavered in my decision. The nurse held my hand while the doctor did it.

He asked me if I wanted to see it, and I did. I looked at the clump of miscellaneous cells and felt nothing. And I am a kind, compassionate person- but I can’t feel compassion for something that I don’t believe is there.

I left and sat out in their waiting room with my boyfriend, who was waiting there. I sat for a bit, and then we went home, where he took care of me.

It cost us $300 which is why it always makes me laugh when people say abortion mills are super profitable. Abortions really are not that frequent, people, and at $300 a pop you really don’t make a lot of money. We split it between us - it wasn’t money from our parents or anything like that. It was money we had earned, from summer jobs or whatnot.

I never regretted my abortion, not even for a second. I never was sad, or sorry over it. I think now, that baby would be fifteen years old. :eek: Fifteen years of either being adopted somewhere and wondering why her mom didn’t love her enough, or fifteen years of being horribly resented by me.

Oh yeah. I am firmly childfree. Everyone says “You’ll love kids when you have them”. That seems so…I don’t know. WHAT IF I DON’T? Will you take them from me? I think not.

I think abortion is a valid decision. And I’ve said this before and I will say it again. I WILL have an abortion if I should ever get pregnant again. And I will not stop having sex. I will not give up having sex my whole life because of some religious views that I do not share. We are very cautious now and if I should get pregnant it will be because of a failure in the birth control we use, but even if you made abortion illegal, I would still get an abortion. You cannot convince me it is immoral.

If you really, really want to reduce the level of abortions, you need to work at ensuring that every pregnancy is wanted. That means education. Birth control, easily available to everyone.

It has been put forth that all women and men should be given mandatory birth control at puberty that they can stop at any time. I think it’s a great idea…except not mandatory. I know we cannot put everyone on mandatory birth control but I see no reason why we cannot offer long-term birth control to young men and women who want it and do not have averse reactions to whatever system it is. If I had had such options in high school and college I definitely would have taken them.

More and more women are delaying childbirth now. Childbearing is not our only destiny. Some choose to wait. Others choose not to have them at all. It is our choice, and I am happy that I live in a country where it is allowed.

I know this is long, and if you read all of this, I’m grateful. I’ll answer civil questions but if someone Pits me over my decision I certainly won’t respond in the Pit. I hope other women will share, too - everyone is welcome, as long as you can keep a civil tongue. It just feels to me like anti-abortion people never consider the woman in these circumstances. So here is one woman’s story.

Thank you for being brave enough to post this.

I don’t like being 1st to add to this thread, but what the hell. 'Mika, you’re being brave, so the least I can do is be (anonymous Internet) brave next to you.

The part I left of your quote spoke well for me. My boyfriend at the time? Same thing - all parts of it. We were both being idiots about contraception. Ignorance + teenage sense of immortality = uh-oh.

Considering the absolute fucking meltdown my mom had on behalf of a friend of hers whose daughter (my age) got knocked up, I had a pretty good sense of what I’d be in for if I chose otherwise. She acted like her friend (the future grandma) was a blessed saint for agreeing to help raise the child and for putting up with such a *slut *of a daughter.

I’m grateful I had a choice, because frankly, there was no other choice. A freshman in college, with no job prospects, psycho parents, and (in hindsight) dating an unsuitable partner? What kind of life could I possible have provided a helpless infant? None, that’s what.

(And that’s assuming I had a healthy pregnancy and wasn’t killed or injured by being ripped apart during labor.)
What, are we in dire need of more humans on this planet? We’re in danger of extinction?

How often do you (any of the above posters who have had an abortion) offer up that information in public? I had a previous girlfriend who had had an abortion when she was in high school. She didn’t offer that information lightly - but when she told me, it pretty much completely changed my opinion of abortion and my previous pro-life philosophy. Putting a face I knew and loved in that situation completely altered my perception of it, as it was the ultimate trump card in our abortion discussion.

Concur[sup]2[/sup].

A girlfriend of mine in high school had a pregnancy scare. In the span of a few hours, I went from having one plan about how my life was going to go for the next few years (i.e., college), to planning to spend my college fund to have and raise a kid, to never wanting to have sex again (I got better).

My opinion about abortion has pretty much always been “it’s her decision to make,” but that was the first (and, to date, only) time I’ve ever had to actually walk the walk.

Wow, 'Mika and **purplehorseshoe **- you both are courageous for sharing your stories. You’ll get no questions from me, only support.

I don’t understand how or why there’s so much rancor between two groups who both have the same goal: fewer abortions. I suppose it’s because the vastly different approaches in reaching that goal.

Thanks for sharing. We too often forget the real people and their real situations behind the choices.

I don’t tell people lightly. Mainly because of the reaction, though I don’t really talk much about my medical past at all. But you can bet I’d have no problem mentioning that I had eye surgery to correct lazy eye at age 10. Abortion of course is a different kettle of fish.

I’ve heard Munch’s story before (I mean, not specifically, but the details). A ton of people don’t realize how close it is to you. I can guarantee that someone in your life has probably had an abortion. family, friend, ex-girlfriend, coworker, etc.


Let’s take my example further. Say I had that child, right? Like people think I should have. here are my options:

First of all, having the child would have one of the very few completely unforgivable sins in my family. Fourteen or so years later, my family has come around to accepting my other half. They accept I don’t want to have children. That I will get around to getting married when I want to, damn it. They don’t like it, but they still love me. They even accept I am atheist.
In contrast, as I mentioned my real mom - no one ever forgave her.

But let’s say I had the child. I could have adopted the child out. And known forever I did to my baby exactly what my mother did to me.

Or I could have married the father. Whom I am no longer with, and whose mother made it clear to everyone who would listen that she hated me. And my parents hated him. That would have made for a wonderful life.

Raised the kid alone. HAH!

I still think abortion was the best choice in my case.

Thanks for your kind comments, btw. :slight_smile:

My wife had an abortion about a year after we met. We went bowling that night. The expense was by far the worst part. $500 which makes the idea of abortion as birth control a joke.

I have a question, and I hope you don’t see it as an attack at all.

Knowing how your family would treat you if they knew you had an abortion, how does that effect your relationship with them? Their love is hinged on the condition of you appearing a certain way, your story has made me wonder if you feel the same way gay people do about how their families would react if they knew.

I think that if my family was so determined to having me fit into their pre-concieved mold about how a son/nephew/grandson is supposed to act to keep their love and respect, I would probably love them less and resent them for it, even if I didn’t actually want to DO the thing they dislike so much. Do you ever think about that?

I know a lot of people that have extremely racist family members, and it would be impossible for me to love someone who was a full-blown racist or bigot, no matter how much I liked the person otherwise…but I feel like I’m in the minority in this, most people seem to just put up with their family’s faults and just ignore it.

I’m rambling, good thead though. :slight_smile:

Don’t worry, I know you’re not attacking. :slight_smile:

Hell, of course I resent them for trying to fit me into a mold. I’ve always said, I love my family, but I don’t like them very much.

I try to remember that they are from a different era and place, and that they are entitled to their views just as much as I am.

The thing is, I am willing to break a good many rules to live my life the way I want - but not all of them. Whatever my family is, they still took care of me. I never wanted for anything physically. They could have dumped me in an orphanage but they mostly knew I wasn’t to blame. (They just felt I had some taint.) They arranged to get me to this country so I could grow up without the stigma hanging over my life forever.

So I try to take the good and the bad.

Mostly because when people have strongly held beliefs they tend to think that the only way that someone could disagree with them is because they are a horrible person. Take notice of how Anaamika noted that pro-lifers would surely enjoy knowing that she suffered during the abortion. Everyone who supports abortion loves murdering babies and everyone who is against abortion hates women, you see. It is impossible for good people to have a sincere disagreement over these kinds of issues.

Honestly, as a pro-lifer, I do feel bad for Anaamika. Growing up in a family where you were made to feel awful about being born out of wedlock, felt rejected by your own mother, and where you felt like you would be ostracized for getting pregnant must have been horrible. It doesn’t surprise me that someone who grew up that way would want to be childfree and end a pregnancy at all costs.
That doesn’t mean that I think abortion is a good thing though. I would rather do what I can to try to encourage a culture where people accept their daughters with unplanned out of wedlock pregnancy (referring both to Anaamika’s bio mom and herself there) rather than pushing them into these kind of unpleasant circumstances.

I have always been pro-choice. Except when it came to me. I felt that I would never be able to have an abortion. I even got pregnant when I was 16 and was ready to go through with it (I was looking at adoption). I miscarried.

Now, I am a little older and I have two adopted kids (since I seem to keep miscarrying). Now, I feel a little differently. Two kids is really all we can (financially, emotionally, physically) handle.

Cementing this was a terribly realistic dream I had last week that I was pregnant and carrying to term (something incredibly unlikely). It was the worst nightmare I had had in years. I just couldn’t handle it.

I am convinced that if I were to get pregnant today, I would get an abortion. It might be hard to live with sometimes but it would be better for all involved.

I know others who have made this decision and no one makes it lightly. I am impressed by women who know their situation well enough to be able to make an informed decision.

Here’s who knows:

  • the guy who got me pregnant. We split the cost 50/50, and I can honestly say he seemed more upset by the entire situation than I was. Then again, he was a pretty emotional guy overall. (It was not a decision I made lightly, I want to be clear about that, but it was the one and only logical option available to me, which took some of the … emotionality? dunno … away from the situation for me.)

  • my two closest (girl)friends at the time. Both of whom by now know others who’ve had it done - one already did back then, and told me so.

  • I told Mr. Horseshoe, back when we first started dating.

  • I mentioned it here about a month or three ago (can’t find the post now, sorry) for the first time on the Dope after much internal waffling.
    That’s it. I debated posting here when mika started the thread, but thought, “You know what? I am adamant that I made the right decision for myself and therefore didn’t do anything wrong or shameful. Why shouldn’t I [del] hide under the cloak of Internet anonymity[/del] share my story?” It’s not like I’m proud of what happened or anything. This isn’t to be taken in a “Sistah! Power!” sort of voice. Just: X happened, and I needed Y medical procedure or else Z would have happened, and Z would have been Very Bad all around.

No questions. Just admiration of your bravery.

I’ve had two abortions. So, I guess I’m doubly evil. The first was when I was 16; my birth control failed. I knew I didn’t want to have a baby. My parents would have been furious! Also, i knew the guy I was with wasn’t someone I wanted to be tethered to forever. The hardest part, by FAR, was getting together the money, and traveling out of state so I didn’t have to tell my parents. Because of those obstacles, I ended up being further along, which made the procedure more expensive… it was a nightmare. I never wavered in knowing what I wanted, but it was very hard for two teenage kids to get that amount of money together, and get away for two days. It was probably the most painful experience of my life, but I was so relieved when it was over. I’ve never regretted it. In fact, I still have reoccurring nightmares that the baby was born, and that old boyfriend shows up with the baby.

The second one I had about 6 months ago. We were using protection, it failed. I have two children with my ex-husband, and when I got together with my current BF I told him I was done with having babies, and that if our BC ever failed I would get an abortion, and that agreeing to that was a prerequisite for having sex with me. Happily, he agreed 100%, and it took almost 7 years for the situation to arise. Since I am adult now, I was able to go the day after I tested positive for pregnancy, which was the day I was supposed to start (I had a hunch I was pregnant). Meaning I was about 2 1/2 weeks along. I took the abortion pill (NOT the morning after pill) and it all went smoothly. It was like having a heavy crampy period; not the worst I’ve ever had, but probably in the top 10. Once again, I was relieved, but mostly I was happy it wasn’t such a clusterfuck, and angry that it had to be so bad the previous time.

I have no regrets, and no shame. I will talk about it with people, but only if I feel like they probably won’t freak out and be assholes. Life is too short to deal with that.

On April 1st I sat in the bathroom of my apartment with a positive pregnancy test in my hand, sobbing almost uncontrollably. My husband and I planned to adopt children in the future when we were ready for children. We never wanted to have our own biological child for many, many reasons, not the least of which is my intense fear of needles and doctors. After a few days of really thinking about what I wanted to do my husband and I decided that we would keep the baby. Even though I hate needles and have an incredibly low tolerance for pain. Even though my husband is diabetic and is terrified of passing the disease down to our child. Even though he was laid off last year and still hasn’t found a job yet despite countless applications and interviews. Since we knew that we wanted to be parents some day we have simply accepted that “someday” is in about 6 months instead of 3 years.

You know what though? I was right to be afraid. Pregnancy sucks. I am just now getting to a point where I’m not nauseous all day and it feels like someone has been smooshing my boobs between a countertop and a rolling pin. They forced me to have blood drawn (and I was indeed terrified, sobbing like someone punched me in the face and using every ounce of willpower not to go running out the door like I was late for a marathon) and as it turns out I am RH negative, which means lots more needles in my future. I’m ballooning out of my clothes and will end up spending several hundred dollars just to avoid being naked for the next 6 months. My hormones are making me crazy and my job won’t let me just take an extra half hour at lunch for doctors appointments, they force me to take a minimum of half a day of PTO if I need to be out of the office at all so I will run out of PTO time before I give birth and I will probably lose my job over this.

In the end I truly think it will be worth it, but I also truly think that abortion would have been just as “right” a choice, maybe even more so given our current financial situation. My abortion story didn’t end with an abortion and I know I won’t regret having this baby but I know I wouldn’t have regretted having an abortion either.

I haven’t had an abortion but I would if I needed to. I am not mother material and I take a bunch of drugs that I am not giving up for nine months.

Thank you to the women in this thread sharing their experiences. Talking about abortion as what it is - a simple, common medical procedure - is a powerful antidote to those who want to keep it something shameful, only spoken of in whispers.

When I was younger, people would tell me that once I had my own children I could never be pro-choice. I would see what a rare and precious life a baby is.

Well, I do feel that my babies are rare and precious gifts. Which means that a baby should never be born unwanted, unloved and uncared for. Not only did I not turn away from being pro-choice, having my own kids strengthened my resolve.

Me too. When I had my son, a girlfriend of mine said “Don’t you regret having had that abortion, now that you see what could have been?”. My response was something like, “Not just no, but HELL NO!!”. Seeing the difference between a pregnancy and a real baby highlighted for me how much the former is unlike the latter. Not to mention that I was dealing with a newborn baby, something I knew would have been more than I could handle at 16, but you can never really understand how much it changes things, and just how hard it really is, until you have one. Having my kids, who I love so much and who enrich my life in millions of ways every day, has only solidified for me that i made the right decision.

As edited, two women’s. Exactly.