As far as I know, nope. He kinda disintegrated himself in X-Man #75 to save humanity from alien energy beings, and that was the last of him. I think Nate Grey was a mercy killing – poor guy had a history so complicated (alternate timeline counterpart to the time-lost son of Cyclops and Phoenix’s clone?) and had been written so poorly for so long that it was kinder to put him out of his misery.
I still want to see some resolution for Threnody and her baby, though.
Nate’s “twin”, Cable, has been calling himself Soldier X and appearing in that comic with Domino. Cable/Soldier X was one of the few characters I can think of who had two first appearances – once in Uncanny X-Men #201 as baby Nathan and again in New Mutants #87 as Cable. Later on, the two characters were combined into one.
Stryfe, Cable’s clone (enough with the clones!) was IIRC last seen in Hell in X-Force #74. Rachel returned to the Marvel U in Cable’s comic and last time I checked was attending college and staying far away from the spandex brigade. Someone with more up-to-date information is welcome to correct me, though.
Well, the short answer is: Get the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive TPB. I assume it’s out by now, but I don’t know. I have only the separate issues.
But if you have to know NOW:
David Cain. He was hired by Lex Luthor to destroy Bruce Wayne’s reputation, and since he knew Bruce was Bats, and wanted revenge for turning his daughter against him, he did it in such a way that the only alibi Bruce had was being Batman.
He was being unreasonably stubborn, but he also was having a bit of a mental crisis (what else is new?) but in this case, thinking that “Bruce Wayne” had outlived his usefulness and that he was only Batman, so there was no need to clear Bruce’s name. Also, since the only way he saw to prove his innocence was to reveal his identity, he knew it would compromise theirs as well.
He reconciled with them through the process of solving the murder. They went ahead and investigated without his blessings, and then when they’d pieced together most of the evidence, had a sort of intervention. There have been occaisional references, but no major repercussions for anyone except Sasha Bordeaux (and Vesper, of course).
going from memory there… so I may be missing something. Nice story arc, though.
Well, the short answer is: Get the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive TPB. I assume it’s out by now, but I don’t know. I have only the separate issues.
But if you have to know NOW:
David Cain. He was hired by Lex Luthor to destroy Bruce Wayne’s reputation, and since he knew Bruce was Bats, and wanted revenge for turning his daughter against him, he did it in such a way that the only alibi Bruce had was being Batman.
He was being unreasonably stubborn, but he also was having a bit of a mental crisis (what else is new?) but in this case, thinking that “Bruce Wayne” had outlived his usefulness and that he was only Batman, so there was no need to clear Bruce’s name. Also, since the only way he saw to prove his innocence was to reveal his identity, he knew it would compromise theirs as well.
He reconciled with them through the process of solving the murder. They went ahead and investigated without his blessings, and then when they’d pieced together most of the evidence, had a sort of intervention. There have been occaisional references, but no major repercussions for anyone except Sasha Bordeaux (and Vesper, of course).
going from memory there… so I may be missing something. Nice story arc, though.
gonzoron:Are you sure you didn’t mean Ra’s ah Guhl instead of Lex Luthor? I haven’t read the books in question but LL doesn’t have any daughter that I can recall.
Sorry, poor phrasing. The “he” I meant was Cain. (his daughter is Batgirl.)
Let me re-write:
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David Cain. He was hired by Lex Luthor to destroy Bruce Wayne’s reputation, and since CAIN knew Bruce was Bats, and wanted revenge for turning his daughter against him, he did it in such a way that the only alibi Bruce had was being Batman.
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As far as I remember Luthor actually didn’t know that Bruce was Batman, and only wanted to destroy Bruce. (business reasons, I think?), not Batman. But Cain did know and had a bone to pick with Batman, so he took the job. I’m getting fuzzy here, I’ll have to re-read.
Actually, gonzoron, I think Selina first learned Bats’ identity back in the late 1970’s or early 1980’s when she went straight for a while, and she and the Caped Crusader were lovers.
Lex does have a daughter, named Lena. Her mother is the Contessa de Florenza (sp?) who also ran a renegade cloning group called The Agenda.
Lex gave Lena to Braniac 13 in exchange for the knowledge to make use of “the tech,” the upgrades to Metropolis that essentially turned the city into a huge CPU. B-13 had his own agenda which was to make use of Metropolis in the battle against Imperiex (think Galactus without the appetite). Superman eventually retrieved Lena and she’s currently living with Lex at the White House.
gonzoron, thanks. One more question about that storyline that I neglected to ask:
Why did Bruce buy a gun? In “Bruce Wayne: Murderer?” he admitted that the gun buyer in the evidence video was him, but he refused to tell the others why he bought it. Was that just a red herring? Was Bruce lying when he admitted to buying the gun? If he was telling the truth, why would he do something so out of character?
Yes, he did buy the gun. It was a few issues before the Murderer storyline, in Gotham Knights #24. He did it in an attempt to prove to himself he could, and to overcome his fear of guns.
I have a few more Marvel questions ( ever since Ultimates came out I’ve been back into it; they need to put TM into it!) for your attention, if I may:
Is it true that Electro went “cosmic” (i.e. was made insanely overpowered) a while back? What happened with that? I have a fondness for the elemental guys, like Iceman (and yes, I know electricity and ice are not elements, but you know what I mean, right?)
Wasn’t there some “gravity” guy along the same lines who fought the Thunderbolts? What was his deal? I remember him as being too powerful as well.
Somewhere, in some distant memory, I have a dim recollection of someone saying that there was a third Summers brother. True? False?
And on a slight hijack, what thinkest ya’ll of the X-Men Evolution and Justice League cartoons? Are they faithful enough to satisfy you? I like 'em, but I am curious what such personages as you folk may think.
The X-men comics are so convoluted and self contradictory that it’s quite irrelevant to me how faithful the show is to the comic as long as the stories and characters are fairly well done.
That would be Graviton, and yes, he’s very powerful. As I recall, heroes (mainly the Avengers and Thunderbolts) have only been able to take him down by playing mind games with him, but not by matching him for power.
Sam Hell: Live most of Warner Brother’s animation, I like the JL animated series a lot – so much so that I have downloaded every episode on my hard drive from other sharers on KaZaA.
If you’re asking for a direct comparison of the two series-- I dunno. I wasn’t at all impressed with the last X-Men cartoon and I haven’t felt the urge to see this one.
In terms of animation, plot, voiceover quality, characterization, sound effects, visual details, epic-ness, in-series continuity and in-joke surprises, JLA probably has them beat.
Faves: Hands down, “Injustice For All” and “Savage Time” – the former for the inspired combination of Lex Luthor, The Ultra-Humanite, etc. for villians, the latter for for having the good sense to delve into the DCU and use Steve Trevor, The Blackhawks, Sgt. Rock & Easy Co. and a powerless John Stewart playing heoic soldier in the storyline.
Favorite single moment: In “Injustice”… during a brawl, a supervillian goes flying into a mock-up of Wondertwins Zan and Jana and demolish it. They were posed like Jor-El and Lara’s statue in Superman’s fortress. I cracked up for many merry minutes at that joke.
And according to this site which, although unofficial, seems pretty authoritive, a character known as Adam-X is believed to be the third Summer’s brother. Adam-X is thought to be the son of Katherine Summers…and D’Ken.
Apparently, the writer who wrote in the “third-brother” element confirmed online that Adam-X was intended to be the third brother, but he had stopped writing for X-Men before he was able to make it “canon.”
That leaves me to wonder, though…If the third Summers is from deep space, how exactly did Sinister even find out about him? Does he travel out of Earth’s solar system that much?
[spoiler]…Considering that he’s the JOKER, isn’t it a pretty foregone conclusion that he’s going to keep destroying lives, and probably a LOT of them?
At the very least, they could break his spinal cord at C5, or poke his eyeballs out, do something to make it at least hard for him to hurt people, when he escapes Arkham again.
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