Ask the conspiracy theorist

So the Illuminati is really cats?

Cat lizards.

Reality. :rolleyes: :dubious:

I understand this is subtly mocking sarcasm.

Before the Pope, there was the Roman Empire.

Have you considered that maybe they would have not stopped him from speaking so as to send a subtle warning to his sucessors? So the President could never write a speech by himself? The President needs permission from a speechwriter? There is never anything time-sensitive, controversial, or of a national security nature, like the Cuban missile crisis that warrants writing a speech alone? Their “plans” appear in The New York Times after the fact.

They could have, though they wanted the Bay of Pigs in 61, the Cuban missile crisis in 62, and the assassination in `63. It was a three year plan.

The height of the Cold War is commonly held to be during the Cuban missile crisis. Yes, the Cold War was already tense, but it escalated a year after.

Haha! Very funny. You seem to have a hang-up (no pun intended) about how world leaders contact each other. hint: It’s not always by telephone -

[QUOTE=The New York Times, January 21, 2013]
He promised “direct engagement” with longtime adversaries, including Cuba, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea and Venezuela. He is one for five: only the generals running Myanmar responded to his letters, economic incentives and offers of a new relationship.
[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

And the Roman Empire was for a relatively long time.

If the whole world consisted of democratic governments then it would not be the case that some people have more power than others. There could be one person pulling all the strings. That is my hypothesis.

fact-value distinction, what Nieztche wrote of On The Thousand And One Goals. Oh, that’s right. You hate philosophy. So why bother explaining it to you.

Just like the War on Terror which is a prelude to the New World Order.

From Wikipedia, War on Terror:

Empahsis mine.

The New World Order will make the War on Terror look like a day at the beach.

It happened on Above Top Secret.

As I was trying to explain to Loach upthread - it was already posted by a revealed Illuminatus.

Not mocking or sarcasm. You wrote total gibberish. Simple statement of fact. One of which I have many who agree. You, not so much.

The only way you can think that was an answer to what I said is if you have something wrong with you. Many times it has been pointed out to you when you reply with a link that has nothing to do with your answer or the question. This is one of those times. You have a reality deficit problem.

Do you even read what you post?

No, I have not considered that. Because, you see, it’s a stupid idea. JFK supposedly told the entire world they exist. You would think that would be the one thing a world-dominating conspiracy would never ever allow under any circumstances, but you’re now saying they did it on purpose and let JFK escape punishment for 2 1/2 years to boot. What if other leaders had spoken out during that ridiculously long interval?

Also, murdering someone isn’t subtle.

Presidents already didn’t write speeches by themselves. It sounds like JFK wrote this speech with Ted Sorensen.

I’m asking you to explain how an all-knowing conspiracy could fail to know the president was (supposedly) going to tell the world about them, and I was explaining ahead of time that JFK didn’t write the speech alone. Other people knew. So how did it stay a secret?

By the way, the speech was actually about the press.

No. The fact that the president has to deal with time-sensitive issues is exactly why he has speechwriters. He can’t review the news, decide what to do, implement a plan and write a speech about it all at the same time. Anyway, JFK didn’t write this speech by himself and it had little or nothing in the way of breaking news. And he was in fact asking for some more deference from the press with regard to national security matters.

No, now you’re trying to justify something that makes no sense. They could have done all this without letting him (as you theorize) tell the press about them.

You’re the one who keeps going on and on about world leaders getting mysterious phone calls with instructions they have to carry out (even though they don’t know who’s calling or why they should listen).

It’s been explained to you a thousand different ways that this is not the case, and that the theory (and your evidence) are garbage.

No idea what you’re trying to say here. Above Top Secret appears to be a conspiracy theory website, so I wouldn’t take anything there seriously. The entire concept of a secret conspiracy that constantly drops hints about its existence and plans is so stupid that you would have to believe the conspirators are idiots- in which care one wonders how they could be running the world in the first place.

It occurred to me that to Kozmik, we are the crazy ones. After all, he’s repeatedly laid out the evidence and we still refuse to see it.

No, not crazy.
Willful dupes of the Illuminati, yes, possibly a few active agents of Theirs, but not crazy.

I prefer Sisu…:smiley:

Uhh… what does that even mean within the context of my question?

Do you believe the recent shootings in Aroura and Newtown were hoaxes, staged or set-up by the government?
I have heard people say they believe that James Holmes was a victim of mind control
I’ve heard them say there was more than one shooter there
I heard a REALLY nutty one involving Lil Wayne and a video he made that happened to take place in a movie theater

I’ve heard that the children in Newtown aren’t really dead but are all in hiding so Obama can pass gun control laws
I’ve heard that Obama (or some other government figure) actually had them killed in order to get gun control passed.
I’ve heard that the parents on TV are all “crisis actors” along with a man who helped the children

I’m wondering about your opinions on all of these things.

Why must the Illuminati remain anonymous? Unless this weakness of theirs is less policy-based, and more a function of Reptilian Aversion to Public-Eye Disorder (or RAPED), it seems like it’d be far more efficient and cost effective for them to just rule over us soft, pink things directly, no?

Oh you are a bit late to the game but if you are willing go to post #1 and read like the rest of us and you will find out

“Does Kozmik believe in the Sandy Hook conspiracy?”

“Does he believe we are being controlled by Reptile Overlords?”

“Do we have another new Conspiracy Theorists posting in this thread?”

“The answer to these questions and many more, next time on the Dope”

Capt

I guess yes I should have went though and read every page:smack:
I will go do that now. That’s what laziness gets me. I read the first 2 or 3 pages…

Alternately, you could go huff paint for a few hours. The impact on your brain would be roughly equivalent.

Skipping and skimming will not lead you to enlightenment. There are no shortcuts on the Golden Path.

Your Lucky Numbers are 4, 7,12, 27,28, and 36

We know for a fact that Oswald tried to kill General Walker several months before the JFK assassination. (Lee admitted this to Marina.)

We know for a fact that Oswald took his rifle to work on November 22, 1963.

We know for a fact that Oswald was the only one missing from the Book Depository directly after the shooting.

We know for a fact that Oswald killed a Dallas police officer while fleeing his residence.

Thanks to advances in computer technology, we can now demonstrate that Oswald had time to fire all three shots and that the “magic bullet” theory is likely accurate.

So… why do you refuse to accept that JFK was shot by Oswald and Oswald alone?

Are they any countries independent of the Illuminati/Anarch such as say Iran or North Korea?

When did the Anarch/Illuminati gain control of the whole world, after all the Roman Empire nor the Papacy would have had much influence over China (which was for several centuries probably the strongest nation on Earth) much less the uncontacted societies in the New World?

The Anarch had grown so rich, he wanted to retire. He took me to his lair and he told me his secret. ‘I am not the Anarch’ he said. ‘My name is Ryan; I inherited the world from the previous Anarch, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from is not the real Anarch either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Anarch has been retired 15 years and living like a king in Patagonia.’

Good night, Telemark. Good work. Sleep well.