Kozmik: Can I just pick up this one point? So we have “real” Illuminati - the inner core as it were - who know what they are doing and the real purpose of their plans and these are numbered in the low hundreds. Is each of these “public and semi-public organizations” run directly by one of these members of the inner circle?
How does one become an illuminati?
And for the most part the truth does come out about those things. It just takes time.
I’m puzzled by the fact that the G-192 is comprised of heads of government who almost certainly don’t know about any conspiracies he’s listed (see post 73), but if these 192 world leaders got together, that event would be proof that there is a massive worldwide conspiracy… that they don’t know about!
So, Kozmik, what was your reaction to my analysis in post 68, and Dr. Fidelius’s agreement in post 69? When you read those posts, what was your first gut reaction? Do you think we’re just being jerks? Do you think we have valid points? Was it just meaningless random noise to you? What?
An illuminati is an illuminatus with a split personality.
Another question, for any CTer who wants to answer:
What, if anything, do you think the Illuminati does not have the power to do?
What’s so hard to understand? Kosmik has made it very clear. He’s the bottom rung of a very large corporation. He has a boss, his boss has a boss, and a boss above him, so on up to the CEO. Of course the CEO has government officials above him, who have officials above them, and so forth and so forth. So why should this ever end? It doesn’t make sense. Obviously, if all the world leaders of the 192 countries got together, it would be proof that they weren’t the top. There has to be someone above them, there just has to be. Because that’s the way the world works. There’s always someone above you. And that’s what the Illuminati are.
Now, what the Illuminati don’t realize is that they themselves have been carefully selected and manipulated by their alien governments from distant stars… and so on… and so on…
The breakdown occurs with the secrecy. When I was a lowly worker bee, I knew who my boss was and I knew who his boss was. I could, if I wanted to, trace my way up the chain of command until I theoretically reached the President of the United States. Every link in the chain was a known figure that people recognized as holding that position.
So why would this system suddenly change at the very top? Why would the members of the Illuminati be invisible? They supposedly run the world after all - they have nothing they need to hide from. The people who give orders to the heads of state should be just as well known as the heads of state.
And that recognition is a major source of people’s authority. People obey a leader because they know he’s the leader. An unknown leader has no authority.
Let’s say you’re a sentry at some military base. Two cars race up and two men get out. One’s Barack Obama and one’s a guy you’ve never heard of who tells you he’s Barack Obama’s boss. They both give you conflicting orders. Which one do you think you obey?
Being the most powerful man in the world doesn’t mean anything if nobody knows you’re the most powerful man in the world.
Yes.
Because Sandy the Squirrel is not a conspiracy. It may be an inside joke but it’s not a conspiracy.
To the first question, I can’t; however, drewtwo99 can. He did it in post #108. To the second question, the only evidence I have I can post in this thread and everyone here is a neutral impartial observer, including you.
No, because it would be a black budget that this theocretically unlimited.
Plausable deniability.
Because at the highest level, unlike at the lower levels, they have the ability to anticipate and even intentionally cause blowback.
Yes.
Because Sandy the Squirrel is not a conspiracy. It may be an inside joke but it’s not a conspiracy.
To the first question, I can’t; however, drewtwo99 can. He did it in post #108. To the second question, the only evidence I have I can post in this thread and everyone here is a neutral impartial observer, including you.
No, because it would be a black budget that this theocretically unlimited.
Plausable deniability.
Because at the highest level, unlike at the lower levels, they have the ability to anticipate and even intentionally cause blowback.
Whichever Director of the Secret Service it is at the time. I never said that the Director of the Secret Service was necessarily in the Illuminati
Yes. Take the Secret Service for example. There are over 4,000 Secret Service agents. There is 1 Director of the Secret Service. Then the Secret Service itself is under the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Homeland Security, in turn, headed by the Secretary of Homeland Security. And the Secretary of Homeland Security is a member of the President’s cabinet.
Not to be glib, but probably much more difficult than saying this oath: “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
It was irrelevant to anything in thread; however, it might be relevant to other things in other threads.
Their only limit is the very source of their power - anonomity. They do not have the power to do things out in the open.
Wow.
**drewtwo99 **got it!
The fact that you somehow blank out the second part of his post shows the very severe reality disconnect in your brain. Hint: he doesn’t agree with you.
Oh for heaven’s sake…
I think it’s safe to say Kozmik’s all but admitted the Illuminati is really an extraterrestrial entity that has decided, for reasons baffling, irrational and unknown to anyone, to control the politics, economy and all other earthly international and global operations/interactions to their own end by compartmentalizing myriad layers of myriad governments, leaders, organizations, security, military, institutions, corporations, etc.
From the very bottom rung to the most powerful people we can point to until we reach our reptilian-turtle-looking alien overlords—who themselves might receive orders from their home world, and perhaps yet some other reptilian race pulling the strings on them, and so on…
…it’s turtles all the way up…
Just wanted to add, that’s a shitload of paperwork.
Back to the Apollo missions.
What do you believe is the strongest motive for sending those men to the moon.
Also, do you believe it stopped with Apollo 17, and continued on in secret?
And again, we fully understand what **Kozmik **is trying to say, we just do not agree that it is an accurate model of the real world. I might state that a little more strongly - a person who only reads the New York Times and who has a limited education (and, apparently, no experience with politicians or government) has constructed an arm-chair paranoid theory with no relation to reality. We are mocking it, as the only proponent is mentally incapable of offering any defense other than non-sequitors and vague hints.
Do you believe any paranomal activities are real, and if so, which ones?
For those who insist secrets can’t be kept.
There’s a system open to abuse, if ever I saw one.