The other club in Atlanta mentioned earlier is likely the Clermont Lodge, which features a blend of older and eccentric dancers, some of which do their poetry, others which crush PBR cans with their breasts.
i only just found this thread, so forgive me if this has been covered or explained…
if those numbers are true, and unless you really said ‘only’ instead of ‘as a minimum’ you are a piece of shit.
if you are pulling dollars, and not sharing with support (be they 'tenders, 'backs, bussers, doorstaff, etc…) to at least the minimum of house policy, you are scum. a thief.
i don’t normally work with strippers, but i do with bartenders, and it’s hard enough to get them to be honest… so i am really having a hard time giving you the benefit of the doubt here. when you work in a club, it is a team game - whether it is a strip club or plain old nightclub. there are a lot of people putting a ton of hard work into making the money flow into the collecting hands. and that money should be split fairly (notice i did not use the work “equally”) between the contributors.
if a minimum tipout is 10%, and you have a grand in your hand, that tipout is $100, not $25. and it is a big fucking deal, as the tippee may have someone else to tipout as well. and if you are in that case really only passing on $25 out of $1000, you are a piece of shit scum, and a thief.
i will, over the next day or two, read this thread fully, and if i find that you have explained that quote in a greater context, or clarified your reasons for such practices to something more reasonable, i will retract or apologize for this post as appropriate.
Relax bob, she’s probably tipping more than the average girl is.
IOW, if she busts her ass and makes $1,000 in a night and all the other girls are only pulling in $400 why should she tip more than twice what they tip? It’s not fair. What’s fair is to make sure you tip at least what the average girl in the place is supposed to tip on an average night.
Maybe you should read the whole thread before you start flinging words like scum and thief. Or maybe you should start a pit thread.
You know what? Screw you. This isn’t the pit and you aren’t going to tell me how I’m to tip out at my bar. That bartender might serve me two Diet Cokes a night. And every guy who buys a drink tips, so what does that tell you? In fact, they act like they barely have the energy to get me those Diet Cokes. It isn’t worth it for me to pay them $25 a night. They make their money, don’t worry about that.
As for the dj’s, some nights they get more, but not always. As stated a few times in this thread, they do not play specific music for us. Some try to play more for me, and those dj’s get more money. Others act like what I dance to is insignificant. They don’t directly affect my money, so I don’t see the point in giving them $50 if they haven’t done one damn thing for me all night.
And I’ll tell you this, I am considered a very good tipper. The majority of the girls hand over a $10 and a $5 and call it a night. The dj’s and bartenders are always thanking me for being so generous. That 5% and 10% thing is the suggested tipout, it is not mandatory. I also tip the house mom and the doorman. By the time all is said and done, between house fees and tipouts, I have usually given $100 of my money. That is enough.
If you think I don’t tip enough, call me cheap, but don’t call me a thief because that is bullshit and you know it. I make that money by working my ass off for it, I do not need to hand over a huge chunk to a guy in a booth who has done nothing for me but call off my name in the rotation all night.
And by the way, I don’t want my thread in the Pit, so take it elsewhere if you have a problem with me.
What exactly is a “house mom”?
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Just wanted to say, “YOWZA!” :eek:
That pic is SMOKING hot!
I strongly suggest you read the entire thread before posting.
Name calling and personal attacks are not allowed in MPSIMS.
If you have a problem with something a member posts, take it to The Pit.
Cajun Man
for the SDMB
A house mom is a woman who works in the dressing room, usually helping dancers with their hair, costumes, etc, possibly ordering food for them, sometimes taking calls for them, etc. At one club I worked at the house mom actually watched all the money, too–there was a big locked box with a slot in the top and a bunch of envelopes, and as you got enough money to be awkward to carry with you, you put it in an envelope, wrote your name on it, and dropped it into the box. The house mom went through them all at the end of the night and gave everyone their money back.
My club in Tucson didn’t have a house mom.

if those numbers are true, and unless you really said ‘only’ instead of ‘as a minimum’ you are a piece of shit.
if you are pulling dollars, and not sharing with support (be they 'tenders, 'backs, bussers, doorstaff, etc…) to at least the minimum of house policy, you are scum. a thief.
i will, over the next day or two, read this thread fully, and if i find that you have explained that quote in a greater context, or clarified your reasons for such practices to something more reasonable, i will retract or apologize for this post as appropriate.
Ahh… shoot first, read for comprehension second. Good choice.
Well, actually, no it isn’t. This is MPSIMS, not the Pit, so insults don’t belong here. So, if you do come back to this thread, you’re welcome to apologize for your behavior, but you’re not invited to continue it. If you really want to fling insults, take it to the Pit.
Oh, looks like Cajun Man shot first. Hell, he has better aim, anyway.
Relax bob, she’s probably tipping more than the average girl is.
IOW, if she busts her ass and makes $1,000 in a night and all the other girls are only pulling in $400 why should she tip more than twice what they tip? It’s not fair. What’s fair is to make sure you tip at least what the average girl in the place is supposed to tip on an average night.
And it appears she’s doing this, so bob (and others) should have no problem with this.

I don’t care for the ones who tell me I’m too good for the job or I should be doing something else.
Hell, I’m an engineer working as a consultant and I get that too… some people just think they know better than everybody else.
No questions, but I thought I’d tell you about a different kind of strip clubs.
In my hometown there aren’t any permanent SCs, but there is a bar which will bring live entertainment relatively often. It’s got to be something that fits within their stage (relatively narrow), so live music is unusual but they may get solos or duos, stage magicians or strippers.
When they bring strippers, it’s normally a man and a woman; they may be partners or independent. No lap dances; no stage sex (it’s stripping, not a community peep show). Usually they’re independent and do two shows each. If there’s a party there, some performers will go up to them during an interlude and ask whether there’s a “party person” (bride, groom, birthday) and/or someone who’d like to come onstage for the second dance. Some of the funniest pics we got from the hen/stag parties of E and E (what? it’s their initials! they had the good sense to give the kid an A name), which had converged in the club, are of them on stage with a female dancer - she’d seen that the groom would like to get on stage just for general fun and that the bride is jealous enough for three women; she proposed something that the bride thought would be cool, so they went up. Bringing people from the audience on stage always gets good tips, but of course not everybody wants to do it. It’s a good thing that nowadays in Spain most people won’t bat an eyelash at pictures of a 4th grade teacher dressed up in Mexican Revolucionaria attire learning from a stripper how to take her blouse off sloooooooowly while her Pancho Villa looks on with a goofy grin

What’s worse is that I have heard stories of men heating up coins with lighters and tossing the hot metal at the girls.
I’ve heard that many times but never actually seen it.
In my opinion, it’s an urban legend.
It would be pretty hard to ‘toss hot metal’ without burning your own fingers in the process. Yes, you could use gloves or tongs or whatever, but it seems unlikely anyone would bother.

I answered your question in post #76.
:smack: thanks, dunno how I missed it.

It’s a good thing that nowadays in Spain most people won’t bat an eyelash at pictures of a 4th grade teacher dressed up in Mexican Revolucionaria attire learning from a stripper how to take her blouse off sloooooooowly
while her Pancho Villa looks on with a goofy grin
Can this be found anywhere near Madrid, Valencia, or Barcelona? I’m going to be there this summer and would not like to miss this for the world.
Are strippers offended by being referred to as ‘peelers’?
I have known a few strippers and many of them seemed a lot like you are coming off here; confident with their sexuality, comfortable with the requirements of the job, and loving the awesome money, thinking they’ll just transition easily into a more normal job once their dancing days end.
I’ve never really seen it work that way, though. They seem to come to need that control/response from men. Not a man, all the men. When they would get real jobs they could never seem to resist using that strong talent they’ve developed, sexuality to get maximum response, at what proved to be very inappropriate times. And yes many of them had college educations.
I came to feel that stripping was largely a refuge for the damaged. Women who’s sense of self either starts out or ends up all about their ability to sexually arouse men. They would seem to be setting themselves up for a very hard fall, like any youthful skill it can’t last. As they aged it got sadder and sadder, not unlike aging models who only know one way to measure themselves, physical beauty.
Your thread has certainly caused me to reexamine some of that thinking, very interesting reading.
Would you be okay with it if your daughter wants to take up stripping when she is old enough?
And thanks for the thread, it’s great!

Are strippers offended by being referred to as ‘peelers’?
Most of the strippers I know aren’t offended by a whole hell of a lot.
I came to feel that stripping was largely a refuge for the damaged. Women who’s sense of self either starts out or ends up all about their ability to sexually arouse men. They would seem to be setting themselves up for a very hard fall, like any youthful skill it can’t last. As they aged it got sadder and sadder, not unlike aging models who only know one way to measure themselves, physical beauty.
Your thread has certainly caused me to reexamine some of that thinking, very interesting reading.
Sometimes it is that way, other times it is not. I worked in a regular job for five years, and had I not been so miserable at the job I left, I would have continued to do so. But, if you still look good and you want to do it, I don’t see the harm. Plenty of women go on to do other things in their lives. Some don’t, but neither do a lot of people who work in lower paying jobs. Ex-strippers aren’t any more damaged than people who have to work for pennies as a cashier for 40 years.
Would you be okay with it if your daughter wants to take up stripping when she is old enough?
No, and I wouldn’t recommend it to any young girl. I wish they’d make them be at least 21 before allowing them to work. Sounds hypocritical, but I have had enough time to look at it and the effect it has had on my life. I probably would have done it no matter what, but I wouldn’t want my daughter to see some of the things I’ve seen or be around a lot of that craziness. And I shudder to think what the industry will be like in 10 years. The contact level just keeps going up, and I think in 10 years it will be nothing to walk into an SC and be able to pay a girl for sex.