I should find a way to scan in the copy I have. This printer/fax thing of mine might have a scan option. I will ask husband when he gets home.
I went to the local gourmet chocolate place and got a couple of boxes of dark chocolate goodies. I told the little old ladies behind the counter that they were for the Las Vegas strippers. They thought that was funny. I will tell you how it worked later in the week.
This is such a fascinating thread! Thank you for starting it.
I have one question, and if it has been asked, I apologize.
Can you pick out other exotic dancers/strippers in a regular crowd ( like at the mall.) just by certain looks or body characteristics.
(The reason I ask this is we have a mom that comes into the store where I work and she has a very done up and artificially pretty-fakeness about her make up and over done hair. She would be 10,000 times prettier without any of it. She is so fake looking and pencil thin in a land of average chubby people. When we see her (regularly) everyone in my department has come to think of her as a stripper. )
One more question for this great thread: Does your place ever do the topless carwash thing? if so, do the performers like doing it? My guess is no, because there’s not enough money in it?
One of you, I think it was OpalCat, mentioned that she had worked in fast food at one time. Taht reminds me, in an essay called “Pornbodies” I wrote a couple of years ago, I maintained that working full time in a fast food restaurant is a much more wearing and degrading occupation than being a stripper. The work is physically tiring, you’re treated as a very replaceable machine part, and the wages are so low that it is hard to keep oneself fed clothed and sheltered, much less obtain good medical care or any of the amenities typically associated with “the good life.”
Now, stripping in a club, although you work in the nude and most of the men who look at you probably aren’t all that interested in your qualities as a person, at least pays enough that you can live a good life and even put away money toward a career change if you are so inclined. People look up to you more, too. At least you have to beautiful and/or a skilled dancer to work in a strip club, whereas fast food is generally considered to be a sign that you have no skills, no ambition, not much of anything in the way of personal qualities.
Am I completely off the beam here, or pretty close to the truth? I’m just guessing, but Indygrrl and OpalCat are in a better position to judge.
I’d say that it’s accurate (with the slight detail correction that I never worked “in the nude” as I only did topless dancing). However, more guys than you would think actually are interested in other qualities. A lot of guys will pay you to sit and talk to them, and really seem genuinely interested in what you have to say. Then there are plenty who just want you to shut up and let them stare at your tits, but that’s the way it goes.
I never had a customer ask me about my life or my dreams and ambitions when I was a counter girl at McDonalds. Customers almost universally treated us with total indifference if not downright disdain (there were plenty of those).
I work in retail and I would be really annoyed if anyone asked about my life or dreams.
Questions for the thread:
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What is an ideal customer for you behavior wise? I know an ideal customer would be one that gives you lots of money, but how do you expect your customers to behave.
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Are there any guidelines for competing with the other strippers? I would think that it would be rude if another girl tried to sell a dance to a customer while you are still talking to him. What are the rules on that?
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Where does the club make most of their profit from? I’m going to guess liquor, right?
Well in retail you don’t typically sit there at a table with your customers, talking to them while they get drunk.
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I liked guys who were friendly and talkative but didn’t expect me to sit there and chat with them for an hour for no money. I’ll sit and talk for a little bit, sure, but don’t try to guilt me into keeping you company for long periods of time so that I don’t make any money. Don’t be rude or grabby either.
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The social etiquette between dancers is very complex and it also varies depending on where you are. Yes it is rude to hit up a customer for a dance if another dancer is already there. Sometimes a guy will ask one dancer to go get a different dancer for him “no thanks, but could you ask Lacey to come over?” I always did this for customers but some girls refuse. And if a girl came and got me because a customer had asked for me, I gave her a tip.
- Dunno, I wasn’t ever involved on the business end of things. I’d guess the liquor.
One who tips generously and behaves like a gentleman (no groping, grabbing, is respectful of me and doesn’t waste my time). And he would smell fresh and clean and would be wearing jeans or khaki pants, no gross silky shorts or track pants.
Well, I never think of it as a competition, so that’s hard to answer. There is an unspoken dancer code though, and a girl trying to sell to a guy I was sitting with would definitely violate that code. Even worse is if I get up to go do my stage set and she comes over and tries to cut my throat by trying to take my custie for dances or get money from him after I’ve gotten him all warmed up. This doesn’t happen too often though, thankfully most of my customers just tell them no, that they are waiting for me.
That’s not a rule though, but if you go around cutting throats you can expect problems from the other dancers and that is far worse than anything management would do.
Alcohol, cover charges, and house fees from the girls.
One of my best friends in college (I went to ISU) worked as a male stripper, and dated a stripper who worked in Indy. We often would meet up with them and their coworkers at Eden on the nights they got done working early enough (or didn’t work)…this was back in 98-2000 or so, I bet you know all of them, if you were dancing then.
wow small world.
Questions:
Have you ever seen guys who you knew or that you thought were mobsters hanging out in the club, a la “The Sopranos” and the Bada-Bing?
Why, in your opinion, do guys PAY women just to sit and talk to them? I get into conversations with women (non-strippers) all the time, and I don’t pay a dime. I can’t fathom paying a woman for nothing but talking. I’ve had plenty of conversations with strippers too, but usually only after I tipped them for dancing, and that’s what I thought I was paying for, not the talking. Is it the difference between talking to any woman and talking to an attractive, nude one that guys are paying for?
Why are female strippers so much more popular with men than male strippers are with women? Why are the male strippers you mentioned earlier so aggressive with female patrons? Does that actually pay off for them?
You said your husband is cool with what you do. How would you feel about HIM going to a strip club? How would you feel about him going to YOUR club, and getting a lap dance from a co-worker?
Has anyone ever solicited you to do porn? Did it bother you? Did you seriously consider it? What was your response?
Are you worried about anyone from the SDMB coming into your club and going “Hey, Indygrrl!”
I’m also intrigued by what Maastricht said, about there being no strip clubs in the Netherlands. I wonder why that is.
It isn’t even that. Generally speaking if you’re sitting talking to a guy you have your clothes on. (And even after I’d stripped, I was always still in a thong, never nude. Dunno about Indygrrl)
Then I am completely baffled.
I should add that, having looked at your pics, I can’t figure why he mould feel the need to do this. You naughty schoolgirl, you! 
Hmmm…that’s interesting. I’m assuming the reason that you don’t like silky shorts or track pants is because they allow for too much…ahh…feeling between you and the guys crotch? On one hand I can understand…but from my expierience having a hard-on in jeans isn’t very comfortable. And if I get more than a couple of lap dances from a hot girl, khaki’s can show damp spots if I’ve been leaking pre-cum while hard. (Hey, we’re all adults talking about this here) Since earlier in the thread you mentioned that a hard-on was a sign that you were doing your job well it seems strange to me that the way a patron is dressed is “gross”. Am I mis-understanding the reason for your revulsion?
I figured Indy was grossed out because it seems like that’s how a guy would dress if he wanted…er, easy access to himself. For whatever reason. 
No, but I’ve seen known politicians doing “business” in the club.
Well, one reason is that is the only way she is going to sit there with him (if she is smart). Another is that there are a lot of very lonely people in the world, and a lot of men who travel all of the time for work and such. These people are just looking for a human connection, and that’s why they’d pay for the service.
And like Opal said, we wouldn’t sit at a table undressed. That is just tacky. If the guy wants a dance we go to the back and I will strip for him back there, I don’t do it at tables. Anyone who wants a look at me is going to pay me for that privilege. I don’t even take anything off on stage until I have at least five bucks or more up there.
Men are stimulated visually, women not so much. Women can dance sensually and look beautiful doing it, men rarely do anything that is remotely sexy while they are dancing. I don’t know why they are aggressive, I don’t talk to them because they creep me out.
I wouldn’t freak out, but he’s not the strip club type. If he was we wouldn’t have gotten together in the first place. I’m not attracted to the kind of guy who is a regular in a SC. He could come to my club, but he wouldn’t be allowed to hang out there, per management. He did come in once and I paid a friend to give him a dance. It was no biggie.
But I think you are asking if I would be ok if he came in, hung out all the time, and frequently got dances from other girls. And fuck no I wouldn’t be ok with that. Who would? I wouldn’t be with a guy who would waste his money like that. Plus, I’m one of the top girls in the club, I can’t imagine what he’d want with girls who are not even in the same league as me. Again, that’s not a problem because he isn’t interested in SCs.
No to the first question, and no to the second. I wouldn’t be worried at all. Why would I be?
It is revolting because I’m not spending 100% of my dance rubbing up on the guy’s dick. If he is wearing silky shorts or track pants it is just out there, and frankly, that is completely revolting. If he’s looking for that kind of action, we have some clubs down the road he can go to for that. He won’t be getting it from me.
And if you are pre-ejaculating, that dancer is doing waaaaaay more than what I do on my dances.
You misunderstand because we don’t care if you are uncomfortable with your hard on wearing jeans. We are worried about ourselves and our own comfort level. Again, if you are looking for high mileage, we can direct you down the road to the more “friendly” clubs.
I take my clothes off on stage and put them back on before I approach even one guy. If they want to see the goods, they are going to have to pay for that privilege. Walking around topless is like giving it away. I can’t imagine why any intelligent dancer would want to do that.
Yeah I always put my clothes back on before going out on the floor after being on stage. I also always put them back on immediately after a table dance (unless the guy wanted another dance in a row). Our club didn’t have any “in the back” or whatever–the only place to dance for a guy was at his table. I frequently had the guys at neighboring tables flag me down for a dance after seeing me dance for a guy, though.
Oh, and the grossest thing for me as far as what guys wear? I remember a guy came in wearing fairly short shorts once, and by the end of the dance he had a hard on and it was sticking out the leg of his shorts. Eww.