I never said that writing viruses was a bad thing, but Sake was claiming a share of the “glory” for prodicung “devastating” results. He also made the lovely conspiratorial claim that he was being funded by large corporations that benefit from the release of these viruses. I make the claim that he is a wanker and full of shit. Of the two of us, I am the only one who seems willing and able to back up his claim.
*note:*to beginners on the web, please use an up-to-date virus scanner. Operating without one is like dancing on a high wire. Also, in addition to executable files you are vulnerable to viruses if you look at a document in a word processor that utilizes macros or ifyou use a mail client that actively “previews” your mail before you open it.
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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BTW – the ethical response to discovering a security hole in an OS os to notify the manufacturers (if it is proprietary) and the CERT advisory center. It is also fine to post warnings in appropriate newsgroups, bboards, etc, which should refer back to the CERT advisory (once it is released) for details. It is not ethical to post the discovery on shadow boards, warez sites, crack boards, hacker newsgroups, etc.
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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Lioness, I really wish you wouldn’t fight with Phaedrus anymore.
It isn’t fair and you know it.
In every exchange, you’re a flame thrower and he’s a wet match.
You say you don’t have much formal education, but I did a napkin calculation and you’re 27.8 times smarter than him.
So, leave the twit alone. Can’t you see he craves the attention?
Thank you. We now return you to tonight’s discussion, already in progress.
Yikes - I forgot all about this thread! Sorry Spiritus.
Now, I’m afraid this is going to be awfully anti-climactic, but I figure I’d better say something or everyone’s going to think I’m an evil hacker and maker-of-viruses: my post was said with tongue firmly in cheek. I would have put a little winky-smiley face in there, but I thought it was all too obvious it was a jest. Boy, you computer nerds can really take a joke!
What!! Are you saying that I overreacted! How dare you. As if it could possibly be my fault that you are unable to communicate clearly and effectively. Do you think viruses are funny? Do you think loos of crucial data is a laughing matter? You hacker apologists make my blood boil. If there were any justice in the world you would have your eyelids pegged open and be forced to watch continuous showings of “Man in the Moon” until the spirit of Andy Kaufman pervaded your psyche.
Now where’s my climax, damnit!
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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BTW, Sake, I apologize for the vaulted conclusion. You would understand if you only knew how many times I have run into the “real” thing (usually accompanied by threats of the dire things they will do to my systems, which must be true because the little geneii have actually figured out my IP).
pause for blood pressure realignment
Anyway, after the climax I’ll buy you a beer we’ll laugh about it.
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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Thanks, Spiritus - I didn’t mean to be taken seriously, although I guess it’s not much of a laughing matter to you or some others (I hope I don’t have a big fat dossier now).
And now that we’re talking 'bout this climax so much, I’m going to make REAL sure it’s a Great Magnificant One!
Health Warning Behavior under consideration is NOT advisable if you have a blood pressure problem!
Dang. Rantus interruptus: Sake was just kidding about being a petrie dish for computer viruses. (viri? hey, I’m tired…)
You’re quite right, Ayesha, the losers and haters who destroy are slime in the human gene pool. They’re the same people who killed by putting poison in OTC drugs and food. Now we all have to pay for elaborate packaging, not to mention tear the stuff off with our teeth. They’re the losers who destroy because they’re too pathetic, inept and weak to build something.
There are some people in this world who view the universe as an ugly place. They hate themselves and all those around them because they think that everyone is as ugly as they are. They destroy because they cannot build. They hurt because they cannot love. They think things like this are funny because their sense of humor is dark and without a true spirit of wit.
I have spent HOURS making things, building them with my two hands only to see them maliciously destroyed by an uncaring jerk. Last year I spent probably 100 hours building a stained glass window for someone… a drunk little shit broke it because he thought it would be funny. Yeah, ha ha. I know I was just ROLLING at that one. He didn’t understand that this window was unique and irreplaceable. He just didn’t care. That hurt me more than almost anything. The fact that he just didn’t care.
