Um, 'scuse me in advance, please.
The six year old was rubbing the other two kids penises. I don’t want to get to much into a debate on it. I want people to know it happens more than parents think.
The three relatives I have that are into preschool and lower grades, each get a deviant child a year on average and a super violent child. They can’t disclose the incidents to parents, except if their kid was involved, and it takes them a long time to kick them out for the classes safety. I would be sure to ask my child what happened every day, because that’s the only way you’ll find out that a kid is doing sexual behavor with other kids, until your’s is a victim. The same holds true for a violent child. Please take the time to let the kids explain the day to you every day of the year, it’s very important.
Thank you! When a horrific crime such as this has occurred, it is very easy to assume a mob mentality. Even the thread title assumes guilt.
Not to hijack, but I’m reminded of an incident last year. My husband was sleep deprived and he and I and our then 14 month old son were driving to the gas station one night. We were T-boned at a four-way stop.
I jumped out of the car screaming “you fucking bitch, you hurt my baby!”
Yeah. The accident was my husband’s fault. 
The lady, however, was already dialing 911 and didn’t flinch at my raving.
When a child is hurt (or even seems to be – my son was perfectly fine, but cried a good deal in response to my distress,) people tend to forget such things as “innocent until proven guilty.” It’s easy to do, but I applaud you for reminding us to be reasonable, even in a pit thread. 
I’m sorry you live in such a scary world. I really am. I’m thankful to whatever powers may be, my world isn’t so scary as yours.
Look man, I like you as a poster, so please don’t take this the wrong way as this is an odd point in an odd thread to bring this up: Kids are kids and kids do weird shit. Kids do not “molest” other kids. They play doctor, or in your case, Rub the Weiner. There’s nothing perverted or weird about it. Bodies are still new things at that point and children do things that would embarrass adults because they’re innocent, not because some of them are sexual predators and inherently evil.
The person in the OP? Evil as one can comfortably imagine, no doubt about it. Should he be slowly beaten to death with a sock full of jacks? You bet. But don’t get too caught up in the moment.
While I understand what you’re saying, I wonder if freaking out about a six-year-old touching another boy’s penis is likely to do more harm than good.
It is possible that the toucher has been molested himself, and is copying that behavior. That’s what concerns me about this tale the most. There should definitely be a call to CPS if it’s a persistent behavior.
That said, a few exploratory touches are not something to panic about. The boy is not doomed to be a molester. By getting all worked up about it, you are making it a greater likelihood that the kids will be traumatized. The boys who were touched might not realize they were “victims” and treating them as such is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The kids should just be taken aside and calmly told that touching each other in front of other people is not nice, and leave it at that.
The boy who touched them should be told that he shouldn’t do that, but he certainly shouldn’t be treated as a rapist. Do you really think a six-year-old understands the sex-and-power dynamic of rape?
I’m more concerned that at least two boys are known to have this done, and it has negatively affected them. How many others this 5 year old has done this to is unknown. The nephewis mentals messed up and so is this kids other victim. You can’t let this keep happen just because the molestor is 6 years old. They suspect the kid was molested, but the others have now been molested by the 6 year old.
Yes, this topic is serious. I don’t think anyone will disagree. However, with that in mind, why haven’t you attacked the person who made the joke in the first place (OneCentStamp, I think)? If I’m following your reasoning correctly, that would be an even worse offense, since it’s making light of a terrible situation.
::blinks:: I don’t consider my world to be scary. I consider myself to be aware and reasonable. My town is fairly nice, although there are the occasional out of proportionally violent crimes here. The same things happen everywhere else.
My child, however, is my responsibility. I see no reason to leave him with people that I have less than a year’s relationship with, when I can reduce his risks of being harmed. My son gets to visit tons of people on a regular basis. I just happen to visit with him.
Anyway, this thread risks a hijacking once again. Feel free to pity me if you must. I, however, sleep well knowing that I am doing the best I can balancing the responsibilities of protecting my child as well as allowing him as many experiences as possible.
I have to agree with Discord here. I had a cousin who did similar things to me, and I carried a massive amount of guilt and shame.
It never seemed like a “kids will be kids” thing with me.
This was on the linked page from earlier. The mother set fire to their house and the fire killed a 4-year old boy and his 4-month old sister. The father had already been under investigation for “sexual misconduct” with the boy.
Why do these types of people even have children?
Because they can’t be arsed to take precautions not to have them.
I have to agree with Lissa on this. 5 or 6 was the age when my best friend and I were wondering why he had that extra piece to pee with and I didn’t. I don’t recall either of us ever touching the other - more of just a sizing up of the situation. But, even if there were touching involved, does a child of that age even understand enough about sex and sexual response to actually “molest” another child? It seems more like curiosity about the body than deviant behavior.
I read the link, against my better judgement, and now I am physically ill. That was a baby. A baby for God’s sake. I can bearly wrap my head around that. Who would want to hurt a baby, in any way, but most especially *that *way? Forget the tiny cell, forget the solitary, put him in the general population and make sure *everyone *knows what he did. If what I’ve always heard about prisons is true, that would be a far worse punishment than anything we could dream up.
No, what you’ve heard about prisons is generally not true. Molesters aren’t targeted for any sort of harassment in mens’ prisons because the other inmates generally don’t care what someone is there for doing. Secondly, most of the time an inmate can easily lie about why he was incarcerated. (The guy in this story probably won’t be able to, because of all the publicity.) Lastly, there are a hell of a lot of them in there. (Out of almost three thousand inmates in Hubby’s prison, nearly half are sex offenders.) It’s hard to discriminate against such a large group.
Apparently, White was in a fight in jail, and the article implies that it was because of his crime, but knowing what I know about corrections, I would bet that there were other issues at work like a personal conflict between the two inmates. If it actually was just because of the rape, I’d be surprised, because it’s the first such case I’ll have heard of in real life. Inmates aren’t exactly the champions of justice.
You get in trouble for fighting, after all. You can get punished with the loss of privledges and it can go against you in a big way when parole hearings and the like come up. It can also get you sent to a higher security prison, and inmates really try to avoid that. Those places suck.
Female inmates are a different story. My husband once had to run while shielding a woman who was being stoned on the yard of a women’s prison. The other women had discovered that she had killed her child, and a rain of stones ensued. They had to transfer her to another institution.
I always get creeped out when I hear this. You do the crime, you do the time. Why is it in our society we like to gleefully think there are special, extra-punishments waiting to be meted out in our prisons by our other criminals?
If you want to legalize vigilante justice, violent ass-rape, beatings, murder, etc, lobby your congressmen. Knock yourself out. What, your criminal justice system isn’t quite cutting it for you and your particular tastes in justice? Don’t be a wimp about it. Go out there and advocate for laws requiring ass-rapes, beatings, & murder. Go for it! Allah akhbar!
You want this guy to get a death sentence, then sentence him to death. What’s with the “ooh, let’s let the other prisoners know what he did so he’ll really get it!”
People like to think these recreational outrage threads are something special and holy, not to be violated. I don’t get it either.
Um, you think child-on-child sexual abuse doesn’t happen? It does. And it can be damaging to the victims, despite your fantastical outlook on the situation.
My mother is a social worker. She used to work in a group home for kids with behavioral problems. She had lots of cases of children attempting sexual behaviors with other children. It was always the result of the initiator having been molested at some point. Children screw around on their own, but goal-oriented behavior like performing a sex act on another child? Six-year-olds don’t just “play Rub the Wiener” in a vacuum. That’s a sure sign that something terrible happened to that kid before.
Your situation sounds entirely different from the one described by Harmonious Discord. Kids looking at each others’ bodies is normal. Kids touching each other probably falls within the realm of normal. Kids attempting to give each other handjobs is not. What happened to you is nothing like what Harmonious Discord is talking about.
Recreational outrage, like I said. I doubt any of the people posting here really want to throw away our civilized system of justice in favor of vigilante rule. But that’s not going to get in the way of the communal outrage.
I’ve always been a little icked out by this as well. It doesn’t make sense. If were given the choice, I would rather have a guy forcibly fuck me in the ass than punch me in the head repeatedly, not intending to kill me but killing me just the same. And yet we act like people who commit manslaughter are better than rapists, and qualified to mete out justice.
There’s a simple empirical test for that: wrong him, and see what happens.
For cases like this where the guy confessed to what he did? Wanna bet?
I was hoping that I didn’t have to state this in a different way. He was trying to give them a hand job, that is not normal acceptable behavior for a 6 year old ever. Pointing out that this is a certain body part is in need of correction, but not the same at all. A girl may pull down her panties and show the boys her parts, which is something you need to correct, but it’s not the end of the world. All right I’m thinking of a specific incident with a doctor’s daughter in preschool, who had the function of all organs explained to her. The girl was caught at the point of trying to get a boy to pull down his pants, for demonstrative purposes. It needs to be stopped but still is not life scarring. They boy given other boys hand jobs is into the classification of abuse and molestation. I added the above this morning and decided to post the next two paragraphs that I wrote last night, and wasn’t going to post.
Someone I know had a son that was a half brother to the father’s son by another marriage. The son brought up a nasty happening, after staying quiet about something, because he wanted to spend the time with his father. The other kid had fits of rage, and was dangerous. Her son had been threatened with steak knives and butcher knives many visits in a row. He didn’t broach the subject of the knives until the last visit, when the half brother tried to stab him in the chest, as in ran at him with the knife gripped to plunge. He ran in a room and locked the kid out. He was maybe 10 at the time, and didn’t know how to handle the half brother. The incident came up when he said that he wasn’t going back to the fathers house, and he didn’t want to say why. Listen to your the kids daily.
The neighbor’s daughter and husband had two children together, and the father had a boy and girl from a previous marriage. The two kids went to visit the mother in Illinois at times. The two were worse every time they came back. The girl was so problematic that she was sent to stay with her mother that summer. The mother was a skanky whore. She had different men over nightly and they fucked in front of the 13 to 14 year old girl all summer. The girl was doing acts of sexual context with other kids when she got back to Wisconsin. She was taken to a psychiatrist and then they found out what happened when their whore mother had them in custody. The girl was screwed up for good at that point and went to a juvenile home after about two years. She seems to have picked up all the habits from her mother, and never recovered. The son was messed up too but didn’t get the amount of exposure that his sister did. The father was