"Bad" Actors

I definitely have a campy love for Nic Cage and Keanu. Keanu was good in Scanner Darkly and Cage was absolutely amazing in Adaptation, which is one of my top 10 favorite movies.

I think with a good script and good direction those two guys aren’t so bad. But Nic in particular just makes a lot of movies that are horribly written/directed. But that’s fine, he’s got to pay the bills after all. Plus, it gives us things like that amazing Wicker Man YouTube mashup and that’s worth it.

I also like Jim Carey. He gets a lot of crap for having made some amazingly terrible movies, but he nearly broke my heart in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I much prefer him acting seriously to his crazy antics.

People hate her after lackluster performances in the new Star Wars flicks, but I do love Natalie Portman. She’s a smart lady and I think a very good actress. Plus, The Professional. 'Nuff said.

Sometimes, all it takes to change your opinion of an actor is to see him play a role that’s completely different from what you’ve seen him in before.

I disliked Nicolas Cage in most of his quirky, oddball roles… which may be why I was so surprised that he was so good in a mainstream romantic comedy like the cop in “It Could Happen to You.”

I HATED Rob Lowe in all the roles where he was supposed to be charming and sexy… which may be why I liked him so much as a creep in “Bad Influence” and “Wayne’s World.”

I usually found Richard Gere annoying as a leading man… which may be why I loved him as a supporting villain in “Internal Affairs.”

There are quite a few actors I never liked, even came close to hating, who eventually made movies where I found myself thinking, suddenly, “Am I imagining things, or… is he actually GOOD in this role?”

I hated Keanu Reeves for a long time, though he was tolerable in dumb “surfer dude” roles. For me, the turning point was a mediocre movie in which he played a Little League coach in the inner city. That was the first time I found him persuasive playing a fairly normal adult male.

Nicolas Cage was just gawdawful in 8mm, which was an otherwise intriguing film. Maybe he was just playing it as a guy with absolutely monotone emotions. Maybe the director stunk, but Joaquin Phoenix was amazing in that film. Maybe it was because he was married to Patricia Arquette at the time, who I would argue make Andie MacDowell look like an Oscar winner (cite: Beyond Rangoon - a promising film which Arquette manages to kill with her awful wooden performance).

Regardless, he laid an egg in that movie. He was going for sullen in it, which is one of the two notes he can typically hit. The other is manic. If the performance calls for one of those, and it’s done right, then the film will be okay. I just don’t get much nuance out of most of his performances.

Keneau: I disagree with mbh — He absolutely CLUNKS in Dangerous Liaisons, a movie I love. And I don’t particularly detest him, he just is horribly miscast in a period movie. I think he’s fine in the Matrix movies, where to be somewhat inscrutible is an asset. Likewise that surfer movie where he was a federal agent. He seemed very right for that part.

My nomination for a maligned actor whom I will defend is Kevin Costner. I can see no fault in his role in Bull Durham, where a quiet, undemonstrative person was called for. His restraint (which others call limited range) served him well in Dances With Wolves, I thought. Here we had a soldier, assigned to a lonely outpost, and who against his will and out of loneliness, made friends with a wolf … and then, the people of the area. He was convincing to me as basically uncommunicative 19th century man, for whom stoicism and restraint were what made a “man.”

Waterworld, however, I can’t defend. That movie was plain stupid. Though I did enjoy the fins.

I disagree. She has one expression, wide-eyed. I didn’t find her believable at all.

Per the OP:

I think Ben Affleck is a fine actor.

[Kevin Smith]
He was the bomb in Phantoms, yo!
[/Kevin Smith]

Almost makes me want to rent Phantoms to see if that quote is serious or not.

I also have to step up and defend Kevin Costner.

I’m not all into movies and all the subtlety of acting…but I have enjoyed the movies I have seen him in.

I put this in the bad actor in decent movie thread by mistake. Andrew McCarthy. I was only ever convinced by his character in St Elmos Fire.

I haven’t seen many of his movies, but I liked him quite a bit in Hollywoodland.

Affleck’s also damn good in “Mallrats.” And no, that’s not a joke.

I cant find the scene on youtube but Keanu’s “pep talk” is to this day one of the most agonizing things I have ever seen.

(edit) in Point Break that is

[OT]This is going to date me badly but during the late 80’s and early 90’s whenever I saw Andrew McCarthy in a movie, he would always remind me of dimwitted former VP Dan Quayle.[/OT]

I know there’s a lot of hatred for Tom Cruise due to the Scientology thing, but I’ve enjoyed him in anything I’ve seen him in. I’m not saying he has a huge range but I think he’s extremely appealing. I don’t recall anyone dissing him before he went all pyscho.

Same with Mel Gibson. He’s no Ollivier, but he was always enjoyable, IMO.

I’ll gladly watch either one of them if they’re ever in a movie I think looks interesting.

Tim Allen is rarely mentioned as a good actor and his last few films have been absolute stinkers; “Christmas with the Kranks” and that third Santa Claus movie were just terrible. But I always find Allen himself wholly convincing, no matter how good or bad a script he’s working with. Even acting exclusively in comedies, most of them dumb as hell, there’s always a scene or two in every movie where he absolutely nails a serious or emotional scene. And when it’s time to be funny he’s often hysterical. He’s gone up on screen with some damned fine actors and looks right at home.

How can this thread possibly have gotten to 36 posts without a mention of Sofia Coppola?

She is to acting what Zyklon B is to Judaism.

Granted, it was 1983, but she’s wasn’t bad as Diane Lane’s bratty little sister in “Rumble Fish.”

Yeah, OK, I got nothin’.

Of course, he was told by director Spike Jones to ignore his instincts and follow direction exactly. So, not exactly a typical Nic Cage performance.

Who says that? Her performance in My Cousin Vinny is nothing short of extraordinary.

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I’m going to defend Keanu. I think he was great in Point Break, Speed and Devil’s Advocate.

If he stops making moronic sci fi and goes back to playing realistic characters he can turn around his slide towards self parody.

And to keep the ball rolling: I hate Steven Seagal. Defend that!

Steven Seagal might be the thespian equivalent of genocide: indefensible.

Although “On Deadly Ground” is plain ol’ crazy. That’s the one where he embraces his faux-eskimo-ness. It’s pretty amazing.