"Bad" Actors

Over in the “annoying characters in otherwise decent movies” thread, much poopy was thrown at Nicolas Cage: he stank in everything, he’s only in Hollywood by virtue of his family name, he eats orphans. I deny these assertions.

But before we get to that, the point:

This is a thread where I ask you, fellow Doper, to champion your favorite, often maligned actor or actress. Keanu Reeves lovers, show yourselves. Annie McDowell afficianados, stand proud.

I want to hear actors who you think are terrible, who you can’t believe get top billing again and again.* And I’d like to hear people who like them come to their defense. Because, really, when you get down to it, the Cages and Keanus of this world are only in movies because those movies their make money; no amount of clout or name recognition is a free pass for losing a studio tens of millions of dollars. You might think they’re hacks, but they’re doing something right. I want to know what that is.

I’ll start with Nicolas Cage.

For a while, I hated Nicolas Cage. I thought he mugged his way through movies, relying on a mixture of the “what’s going on here?” face and the “I know exactly what’s going on here” face. Putting aside movies like “Raising Arizona” and “Moonstruck” and “Fast Times at Ridgemont High,” movies I doubt Cage haters would mention, I’ll concentrate on his admittedly shlocky-er fare. To put it succinctly: I simply find Cage incredibly invested in everything he’s in. It’s like Christian Bale in “Reign of Fire”: I think Cage knows that “Gone in 60 Seconds” is crappy, that “Wickerman” is a weakass, pointless remake, but he simply doesn’t show it. He soldiers on in an almost maniacal, crazy-eyed way that I find totally endearing. He drags the movie on to its conclusion, even if nobody else is willing to try (“WIckerman” is a great example of this. He probably has back pain from carrying that movie for two solid hours). There’s no winking aside like Bruce Willis does (“I understand this movie sucks too, movie patron”)—he just goes for it and lets the chips falls where they may. He doesn’t play himself either—he’s no great character actor, certainly, but his parts always have a certain, distinct flair to them—contrary to, say, Tom Cruise. And he plays the “bewildered everyman” really well. The “shithouse crazy bewildered everyman” even better.

I just like me some Cage.

So, please, defend your favorites, listen to reasoning for your least favorites. I’m curious to see why some actors I loathe and assume everyone else does too are still millionaire box office surethings.

  • though it’s certainly fine to defend/nominate oft maligned actors who aren’t top bill names—I mentioned Annie MacDowell. In fact, please, help me out on that one. She makes me so sad.

My wife used to watch 7th Heaven. Sometimes, for a laugh, I’d watch, too.
I nominate the entire cast. Especially the cop-in-law.

Never liked Chevy Chase in any movie. He was in a couple of good movies but he was not good in them. His constant mugging and poor comic timing bring down every movie I’ve seen him in.

I dunno…I love him in the National Lampoon Vacation movies…or I may just love the movies as a whole and he just happens to be in them…it’s all about Cousin Eddie.

Unclear on the concept?

I like Cage, even though I don’t like all his movies. As far as I’m concerned he’s redeemed himself and has had a worthy career just on the basis of (in no particular order) Birdy, Valley Girl, Moonstruck, Raising Arizona, Adaptation, Leaving Las Vegas, Racing with the Moon, The Cotton Club, Bringing Out the Dead, and Lord of War. Probably some others too that I can’t think of or haven’t seen but might belong on the Good Cage list (like, maybe, Wild At Heart, World Trade Center or Red Rock West, which I haven’t seen). Hell, his career gets a pass from me just on the basis of Raising Arizona.

And anyone who thinks Keanu Reeves can’t act hasn’t seen The Gift. That’s all I’ll say about that.

I really really hate Jennifer Lopez’s music but I think she’s an excellent actress. When her talent is paired with a good movie (rare, unfortunately) she can kick ass with the best of them. She’s got a lifetime pass from me just on the basis of Out of Sight and Selena. And dammit, I love Angel Eyes and her in it.

Huh?

And to the OP, I think you mean Andie MacDowell?

I was thinking about defending Cage in that other thread, but the OP does it so well I’m not going to bother. I know he’s annoying, but he’s also compelling somehow.

He does amazing work in ADAPTATION, one of my favorite films ever. It’s a difficult and subtle role(s) he plays, and he does a terrific job of it.

I have never seen a Keanu Reeves movie I didn’t enjoy. Now, some might argue that this is in spite of Keanu, like Much Ado About Nothing or Dracula, but Matrix, Point Break, Constantine, The Replacements, Chain Reaction, Speed, hell, even Johnny Mnemonic - I enjoyed them all. So, even if, as people claim, Keanu is a bad actor, he isn’t bad enough to make me not like a movie. He does the job, and looks likeable and easy on the eyes while doing it.

In fact, I’d rather watch a movie* because* it is a “Keanu” movie rather than, say, an “Anthony Hopkins” movie or “Al Pacino” movie, to name a couple of his co-stars.

Cage has some great performances, as others have mentioned. He’s prolific, and like some other actors, I think he takes roles in blockbusters so he can afford to take on the better roles that nobody will go to see.

I’ll see anything Marisa Tomei does, but people still insist its a joke that she won an Oscar.

If we’re throwing stones…Kate Hudson can’t act. Neither can Ashley Judd. Each keeps getting roles, and I find it painful just to watch the trailers. Their performances are absurd.

I think you missed the concept. I did too the first time.

It is for both the defenders and those that hate the actors.

She was pretty fantastic in “Almost Famous”, in my opinion. I’m not sure I’ve ever bothered to see another of her movies but she was great in that one.

Nicholas Cage can make so good movies. He also makes some fun movies that he doesn’t take too seriously. And he mades bad movies. I don’t think he is a bad actor.

I think Keanu Reeves is a decent actor. It just depends on the roles he takes. He can be quite good in certain things.

Heather Graham can play dumb blondes. She can because she is blonde and, from what I have heard, dumb as a stump. I think she is horrible.

I think David Caruso had the ability to become a good actor but his ego got in the way and destroyed any talent he had. He was decent during his first career as a character actor.

Al Pacino became a joke after his subtlety gland was removed sometime around 1980. I still enjoy some of his performances.

I’ve often defended Keanu Reeves here. The problem with him is that his best roles were in little-seen movies like Tune in Tomorrow, I Love You to Death, Leaving Minnesota, My Own Private Idaho and Little Buddha. Speed was about the only popular film of his where he showed some acting chops. Lately, he’s made some bad choices, but he’s still quite good. The criticism of him reminds me a lot of criticism of John Wayne – who was always criticized as being of limited range and wooden in his acting.

And yet, she has been nominated three times (one of which she won.)

I hear Kevin Costner badmouthed a lot, but I like almost every movie I’ve seen of his. He gets a lifetime pass from me because of Bull Durham in the same way Nic Cage gets it because of Raising Arizona.

A lot of actors have limited range, but they know how to pick the right material. Other actors are very good, but will play any role in any movie, even if it’s crap.

For everyone defending Keanu Reeves, I absolutely agree with you, although I have to say unless he’s playing a knucklehead, he’s an awful actor who couldn’t convey shock if you plugged his thumb into a light socket.

Still, he’s an asset to movies, and I want to bring him up, because no one ever seems to mention his starring role in A Scanner Darkly. If you like Keanu, you absolutely must see this movie. IMHO, it’s by far the best work he’s ever done, and he’s done some good stuff.

Certainly…face-slapping emoticon.

Keanu Reeves has an expressive face. He would have been good in the silent movie era. It’s just his voice that always reminds people of the “Bill and Ted” movies. He was very good in The Little Buddha. If you can mentally disassociate the movie Constantine from the comic book Hellblazer, he was actually pretty good in that. And when you tally up the many sins of the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still, Reeves’ acting is pretty far down the list. And when he takes a supporting role, such as Dangerous Liasons or Something’s Gotta Give, he does not distract from the stars.

I like Andie McDowell. I liked Sex, Lies, and Videotape, Groundhog Day, and Michael. And that thing with Bruce Willis, whose title escapes me at the moment.

Kevin Costner is good in romance movies. His problem is, he’s a fan of science fiction, and he’s not so good at that.

I haven’t seen many of her movies, but she did a good turn as Dr. Molly Clock on Scrubs. She wasn’t dumb there, just ditzy, but she played it well.

Susan