Bad Neighbors are here under Section 8. How can I get them kicked out?

In My Humble Opinion
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Eileen,

yea, what i said was that ** I ** dont need to spend my time spying on neighbors. You said you knew how many guests she had and exactly when they arrived etc. Frankly I would be more worried about a neighbor paying that much attention to other neighbors lives, than anything else…I would be concerned about a neighbor that somehow knew my every move like that, **

if you spend all your time obsessing about whatever your neighbor does, you will remain miserable and unhappy. Why not invite your own friends over,…that way you will be having too much fun to care what neighbor has what guests over…

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Argue with you is useless.
I know when they arrive because it is housing, we live wall to wall, and the baby is crying throughout the night. You see, now is 2AM and I am still up, the baby just cry again 30 minutes ago.
I notice when they come is the night when the baby crying.
I don’t need to spy on them, read what I write. This is housing, the wall is thin.
And, have some manners, if baby going to cry all nights, at least shut the windows. So all the neighbors around won’t hear as much, and at least keep other neighbors dogs from barking because of the baby cries.
Maybe you should come to live in section 8, and then you know how other people feel. And the OP posters here are also complaining about her noisy section 8 neighbors too.
And since you love to give other shelters so much, maybe you should give my neighbors guest shelter until they find a house. But becareful though, if anything happened to them while they in your home, you be responsible.
And this is my last post reply to you. I already take actions on this, and the issue is being investigate.

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I would suggest to the OP and Eileen-: MYOB. Remember, it isn’t a crime to be poor, although you would think so considering how the poor are treated.

Since the OP still comes here from time to time, I think an update is in order.

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Yes, a Section 8 tenant can get kicked off of Section 8 and kicked out of the apartment for having unauthorized guests like this. This happened to my next-door neighbor about a year ago.

The neighbor himself was mentally ill, and often disruptive and noisy. Some of his “guests” caused trouble, but most did not. It was the tenant himself who was more of a problem. (ETA: Actually, I thought some of his “guests” did more good than harm, because they were more sane than the tenant, and saw to it that he ate better, and saw to it that he took his meds. When those guests were there, it would have been better if the authorities had looked the other way.)

Still, he kept having guests, and he eventually got kicked out because of it.

In a way, I sort of feel his social worker let him fall through the cracks. The guy is mentally ill and not really able to manage his own affairs. He has (or had?) a conservator, I think, who managed all his affairs. All his bills – rent, utilities, medicines, whatever – got paid for him. Since he was not competent to run his own life (IHMO), and had a conservator to do that (I think), the conservator or social worker should have taken the responsibility somehow. That’s the whole idea of a conservator.

So what should the conservator or social worker have done? I think the guy needed to be in some kind of supervised living home of some sort. A social worker should have gotten him there. Instead, I think they just left him to his own devices, to hang himself. What kind of solution is it, to kick a guy like that off of Section 8? I think he’s been couch surfing with other people since then. Now HE’s the “unauthorized guest”, in all probability.

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Try actually reading the OP before commenting. The OP is minding his own business. The neighbors are actively disrupting his life. If they were Section 8, he’d be complaining to their landlord.

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This.
Do you have any idea how long the waiting list is for HUD housing?
Let your tax dollars go to help people who appreciate they help they receive and have respect for themselves and their neighbors.

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My reply here as noted,is just in reply to Eileen,…not the op. All i have to say is…wow. I was curious about the laws on section 8 and havingan overnight guest. So…i. googled section 8 overnight guests allowed…and wow. The first thing it brought up was a page of forums, and as i glanced at a couple of them, to see what it said re the laws, I noticed Eileen has multiple posts in other forums, including one for real estate, landlord issues. On this thread, she said how her neighbors guests had only been there a matter of days and she had actually called the police because of a crying baby. sigh…as i read it, there were alot of property owners or landlords, etc replying to Eileen, tripping out over how she would first of all, concern herself with her neighbor having a few family members over for a short time, they tripped out over her calling the cops for a crying baby, and noted the tenant at least so far has not violated any rules, and the baby? well, police are not there to solve a case of a crying baby.
they finally had to lock the thread after she just kept arguing with others there. they also said the same thing that Eileen, maybe you have too much free time on your hands, this neighbor has only had their family members there a very short time, not even a violation yet, …

sigh
As i said earlier, i would be much more concerned about a neighbor watching me,…than a damm crying baby.

As the posters on the landlord site advised you, maybe it would be more helpful for you to get busy in your own life, take steps to improve your situation so you can have a chance to get out from being on sec 8, and perhaps get mental health counseling, they gave you the number.

As they pointed out Eileen, if you are this upset over a nieghbor having their parents and a baby stay overnight for a week, what will you do if a truly bad neighbor moves in? As they pointed out, section 8 housing can have alot more serious neighbor problems than a crying baby.

All that to say, the landlords there are experienced and tried to offer you constructive advice. at this point, their not doing anything illegal, …buy some ear plugs or a wite noise machine to help you sleep at night.

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A social worker can’t just put their clients into assisted living. In that guy’s case, the social worker could at most try to clear a path through the weeds and make staying in that house an easier option for him. Mental illness is a hell of an obstacle, though. And it alone, even if it drives you to homelessness, doesn’t give anyone the ability to make your decisions for you.

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Oh yeah, you’re going to fit in well around here. :rolleyes:

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I wonder how many Tollhouses are in the phone book? And which phone book should we look in?

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Yeticus rex, why would you say that? That is inappropriate and sounds intimidating to me…

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I found one in this book! Tollhouse Cookies is his name, Betty Crocker is his dame. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.

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Thank you, anyone who violates the laws in section 8 such as abuse their section 8 vouchers, bring illegal people coming over to live in without reporting will have to pay their price. And the housing authorities will make sure everyone tax payer will used correctly.

And as for Tollhouse, “add user to ignore list”, done! Feel free to talk to yourself Tollhouse, I don’t have read again anything you type, Hahahaha!!!

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You might want to read the board rules. Rule #1: don’t be a jerk.

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The title of the thread is the antithesis of MYOB.

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Anyone who is not in section 8 (not talking to this little kid Tollhouse), I want to say that section 8 rules is strict, is it not like your own house. Because in section 8, you rent the place,and the place is help pay by the government. So anyone who is living in your houself need to report income and that will be calculated into the rent. This is why housing don’t let anyone live in with you unless you put them on the lease. Tax payer money should not be abuse.

When someone bring in people overnight to live with them, they have to let the management know about it, very easy, just walk down to the office and tell the management. Then neighbors have to verify their guest’s real address, and the time the guest will be staying. If she cannot verify that, then that means she give them shelter (unauthorize occupant) and this is a big No in government housing.

And I called the police on the damn baby crying because this baby and baby family are not residents in my housing complex. Who knows where this family come from, they can be just new immigrant come from Vietnam without a place to stay, so neighbor helping them out. And that is against the lease because if anything happend to this 3 guests, section 8 will have to be responsible for them. And do you think section 8 going to take this risk? Answer always be No! That is why they are investigating, and make sure anyone who live under their property will have to abide to the rules.

And, have some manners, if baby (guest) going to cry all nights, at least shut the windows. So all the neighbors around won’t hear as much, and at least keep other neighbors dogs from barking because of the baby cries.

And again, if this baby and baby parents are permanent residents here in USA, and is U.S citizen please go apply for welfare, or the father please go apply unemployment. Then they will have the money and helps, no need to stay for FREE over neighbors house, that is abuse the section 8 system, and abuse tax payer money.

In the previous page, I stated some cons posibility on this situation, when allowing people living in your house while on government housing. Hope if anyone here who on section 8 will follow the rules and report their “live in guests” promptly, to avoid causing disrupting other neighbors peace, and save yourself from having troubles if you cannot prove your guests Real address.

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It is my rights to add anyone on the Ignore List, that is what the Ignore button is for. If you think I am a jerk, please feel free to report me to the admin, and let the admin come here and read all my posts, and let them decided.

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And get laughed out of court. Defamation requires proof that you were actually harmed, and you’re not being harmed here.

Don’t make stupid assed threats on a message board. Especially this one. No one here is impressed.

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Easy, easy. Let’s be real…**Tollhouse **was being a bit heavy handed…**Eileen **was just (IMHO) trying to get some parity…let’s all be calm.

GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, EVERYBODY! THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!

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One thing to check on is if your municipality has any penalties for landlords based on the number of police calls to the residence. Five (or so) years ago when I lived in Burnsville MN, city of many thousands of apartments, they enacted an ordinance that said the property managers could lose their license on the third(!) call to a residence within a year or two (don’t remember the exact length of time). What that did was absolutely guarantee that on the second police call, you were given the boot.