I consider the current rankings and opine that it’s starting to look a lot like another Subway Series <I hope ihope ihope ihope>
Mets win the NL for sure unless something freakish happens in the division playoffs. And it’s just… time for the Yankees to get another World Series win.
Anyone putting any money down would be pretty smart to bet on a subway series. The Mets have been far and away the strongest team in the NL this year, and the Yankees are looking very good as October gets closer.
The problem with a subway series is that it pretty much makes baseball irrelevant and uninteresting for everyone in the country except New Yorkers. I guess if you’re a New Yorker (or a Mets or Yankees fan) you probably don’t care about that too much, but for just about every other fan in baseball it’s a big old yawnfest.
Nor am i just saying that as someone who dislikes the Yankees (which i do) or the Mets (which i don’t). I’d actually be pretty happy to see the Mets win the whole thing, whether they play the Yankees or someone else. But a subway series is plain old boring, in my opinion.
Mets-Tigers, Dodgers-Yankees, Cards-Twins, Marlins-Athletics—any of those would be interesting, and would grab my attention. A subway series, OTOH, and i’ll probably not even bother to watch. The only thing worse than a subway series would be a subway series with a Yankees win.
I’ve been in the US for six World Series, and it’s been a different team winning every time. It’s the second-longest streak in MLB history with no team winning more than once (longest was 1978-87), and i’d like to see it continue.
conversely, if it doesn’t involve a NY team, I couldn’t be bothered - if the Mets are in it against some other city’s team, of course I route for the Mets; if the Yankees are playing some other city, I route for the other team.
That is what I have never understood about most Met fans. I am a diehard Yankee fan, but I do not root against the Mets, I only root against the Red Sox.
It seems to me that a Met fan should be rooting against the Phillies or Atlanta. I do not hate the Jets either; I reserve my hostilities for the Cowboys and Eagles.
I actually root for the Nets & Knicks, though I do wish the Dolans would disappear.
We root against Philly & Atlanta too, but the Yankees filled Shea with their fans and won the World Series against us. I had to live with smug Yankee fans referring to how “sweet” that day was.
Face it. If the Yankees hadn’t won in 20 years, after finally getting back to the series they were soundly beaten at Yankee stadium by the Mets, you’d hate the Mets too. Damn Yankee fans are so spoiled they don’t even recognize righteous anger.
It’s funny, I’ve heard this particular sentiment an awful lot, and I can’t for the life of me understand it (full disclosure: I am a lifelong Mets fan and live in New Jersey, so my biases are what they are). Why, exactly, would the geographic locations of the two participating teams - or specifically the fact that they’re from the same city - affect how interested you are in a given World Series matchup at all, given that neither team is: (1) your team; or (2) from your area?
In other words, why should it matter to, say, an Astros fan living in Louisiana whether the Series is between the Mets and Yankees, or the Mets and Athletics, or the Yankees and Dodgers, or the Giants and Athletics (who might as well play in the same city)? If you would hypothetically be interested in a Mets-Tigers series, or a Yankees-Cardinals matchup, why not Mets-Yankees? To say that “no one outside of New York would be interested in such a series” seems to me to be begging the question: isn’t it equally true that no one outside of New England would be interested in a Mets-Red Sox Series, or that no one outside of New York City and the Bay Area would be interested in a Giants-Yankees matchup?
Me, I’ll watch every October game for which I’m home, because I’m interested in high quality baseball. I want to see good pitching and good hitting and good defense and those things are likely to be found in a World Series - whoever the participants. I guess my question to those who wouldn’t be interested in a Subway Series is this: what trait do you look for in a baseball game that makes it interesting that wouldn’t be found in such a Series?
I guess we are spoiled, the '79 to '95 dry spell never caused me that much anger. I hated decisions made by my team, but I never took it out on the Mets. Besides in 1986, I was rooting hard for the Mets to win the World Series. Of course I was really rooting for the Red Sox to lose.
I’m with you, **storyteller0910. **It’s the World Series–of course you should want to watch. If you’re a baseball fan. I mean, I understand if your team loses in the LCS and you’re particularly bitter about it, but otherwise, if you love the game, there’s no reason not to watch. I never gave a damn about the Twins or the Braves, but I still remember the '91 Series as one of the most exciting contests I’ve ever watched. You can’t be a baseball fan and pass up the opportunity to (potentially) watch something like that.
Well, first off, I loathe the Yankees, so that means I am biased from the start. I refuse to watch them on general principle. Second, if the Mets are playing it will be because they have defeated one of the teams I do root for. But it’s not just that. I would tune out an All-Florida Series as well.
For most casual baseball watchers, the only teams they care about are regional teams. If the Series is All-New York, the rest of the country couldn’t care less. Nobody to root for. Couple that with a resentment/hatred/dislike/ennui for all things New York, and you get the lowest Series ratings in years.
I think that is the real reason for disinterest in a Subway series. There is a strong resentment/hatred/dislike/ennui for all things New York. I know Fox would hate a Subways Series. They fear the ratings loss. They are rooting for one NY team vs. another major market.
I will be happy with any series that involves the Yanks. Dodgers and Cardinals both bring a lot of history and I would especially enjoy those. I also think the Yanks would easily beat either team. I am more afraid of the Marlins with that young pitching and speed and the Mets with an excellent team. Silenus, you’re too young to be a Brooklyn Fan, so why the hatred of the Yanks, is it from 77 & 78? Is it just a hatred of the Boss’s Checkbook?
OK, fair enough. But isn’t that basically applicable to every single World Series? To use an example just mentioned in this thread, if a Series is all Atlanta/Minnesota, why should anyone anywhere else in the country care less? You would tune out a Marlins-Devil Rays series, but not a Marlins - Blue Jays series?
I don’t know. If this year is a Subway Series, than Game One might very well be Pedro “Who’s Your Daddy” Martinez back in the Bronx. It might be Alex Rodriguez’s chance to stick it to the team that didn’t sign him, or fail to do so and generate even more dramatic wailing from Yankees fans. It would be a chance to see Orlando Hernandez pitch, in a World Series, against a team for whom he won quite a few big postseason games. It might be Bernie Williams for the last time at Yankee Stadium. I think the stories that would accompany a game like this ought to be interesting to anyone with an interest in baseball.