Is it possible that the bar was located on the non-functional flight pod?
-Joe
It is likely. Count me as someone who likes the characters having a bar. I wondered if they’d try to make another one since Cloud Nine got all blowed up.
Well, there was a Viper sitting behind the bar… looked relatively intact. Even with the Pegasus’ compliment of Vipers I wouldn’t think they’ve got so many extras lying around that they could use one as “flair” for the bar.
On the other hand, Chief seemed kind of surprised that there was a bar there, and you’d think he’d know what’s on his flightdeck. But surely on that big big ship there was some other place they could have put a bar? There’s supposed to be multiple medical bays; they only use the one.
It’s dumber. The idea of a crew lounge on the Enterprise makes some sense since a) it’s a big ship, b) they don’t drink actual alchohol, c) the ship still has a port to go to for resupply
A few weeks ago the crew of the Galactica were eating paper. Now they have a TGI Friday’s in the hanger bay?
[fanwank] I imagine that the viper behind the bar was one that got worn out, and designated to be set aside to be cannibalized for parts. After all, the viper that Tyrol set aside as spare parts in “Flight of the Phoenix” looked pretty serviceable on the outside, too. There wasn’t enough room in the main hangar deck to store it, so they keep it on the non-functional deck. [/fanwank]
Maybe my standards aren’t as high as everyone else’s, but I really liked this episode. Well, the Baltar part, at least.
Not one of their better installments. The problem, for me, was that at the end of the hour, nothing had changed. Apollo and Starbuck go back and forth with each other and with their respective partners, and at the conclusion, they swear loyalty to their spouses and yet are still throwing glances at each other across the bar. And Baltar finally gets put under the Colonial microscope, but in the end they still aren’t clear on what he did or what his actual crimes might be. Baltar himself, ultimately, really isn’t sure whether or not he’s a Cylon, and he doesn’t know whether the Six in his head is real. It’s a whole lot of noise and actorly kerfuffle, but when we’re all through, the only forward movement in the story is that Baltar will get a public trial. Um, okay.
The highlight, for me, was getting to see Roslin going apeshit in the corridor, trying to crack Baltar’s defenses. I have to wonder (a) if giving the actors something new and interesting to do was at least in part the result of Olmos’s influence as director of the episode (only the second episode he’s helmed), and (b) whether McDonnell, as an outspoken Hollywood liberal, was imagining herself screaming those questions of morality and accountability at George Bush, or otherwise drawing similar inspiration for the moment. I mean, damn, she was into it.
I also did like the echoes of previous episodes: Roslin handing Baltar his glasses, calling back the similar moment back on New Caprica, as well as Roslin referring to “tried the stick / let’s try carrot” when interrogating Baltar, a phrase Baltar himself used in reference to Gina on Pegasus.
Other than that, and some occasional nice bits of dialogue (Apollo: “Don’t you ever…?” - Tyrol: “No”), it felt like sort of a placeholder in between the important bits. But given how much story we got in the previous two weeks, I guess not every week can be a groundbreaker.
Our house (OK, the people inside our house) declared this the Frakking Scariest Battlestar Moment Ever. Damn, she just LOST IT!
But I agree with the rest of the crew that this wasn’t the best ep ever. My husband and I just keep groaning with the Apollo/Starbuck/Dee/Blanders quadrangle, and every so often we sigh, “Yet another Hollywood dilemma solved by polyamory!” I know, never gonna happen. But I just wish for once, someone would say, “Hey, maybe you frakking someone else isn’t the worst thing that could ever happen. After all, we really need to get to repopulating the species. And, you know, that flyboy in maintenance is kinda cute, mind if I have a go at that?”
OTOH, it’s nice to see a relationship mess in which it’s not all neatly resolved by declarations of love and promises of fidelity. Real life ain’t like that. Who of us doesn’t have a single ex we think of wistfully on occasion, even if we really, really love our spouse?
I thought she did that to frighten Baltar into Telling All.
Does your SO read the boards? 
Just where is all of this booze coming from? They’ve been in space for over 2 years now the only alcohol left should be of prison quality.
Think the booze is mostly homebrew. Guess maybe on a Battlestar it should be called “starshine”. When reading some summaries of earlier episodes, I ran across one that mentioned Chief catching a couple of his guys building a still. Like a good chief, he pointed out the numerous flaws in design, and promised to show them how to do it right–after working hours.
More Cylon speculation: Think I’m gonna rule out Starbuck. We’ve watched her frak about half the fleet now, and she has never yet displayed the “Glowing Spine of Passion”.
Baltar remains a contender, but I don’t think he is a cylon.
Gaeta is high on my list of candidates–is starting to display erractic behavior similar to when Boomer went bad. Why would he go visit Baltar in the middle of the night? But if he is a cylon, why would he aid the insurgents? Unless the Final Five need/want the Colonials to find Earth for some reason…
Rosilyn–bothered by the cancer thing, but that woman has a very dark side to her nature. She can be as ruthless as any cylon.
Lee, Anders, and Starbuck have all displayed the ability to heal quickly, and have very good stamina. Lee is probably out, because he has known blood relatives. I eliminated Starbuck above…but Anders could be. He’s a natural leader, gifted athlete…
Doc Cottle–would be a great set up for a “Sometimes God thinks he’s a Doctor” punchline. Has the look to be a leader figure.
Helo–also has good stamina, and bested Lee in boxing fairly easily. Fathering a child by another cylon makes him seem unlikely, but he did betray humanity by spoiling the genocide attempt.
Boils down to I ain’t got much of a clue who it is…but I like to “what if”…
Madame President said to him, “I know you came to kill Baltar…it’s all right”. I figure he was going to kill him the first time. Of course you could also make a case for a cylon going to rescue Baltar from suicide. 
Do you think they’ll find earth before the season ends? I really wish they were off the ship.
I don’t know how much of this season is already “in the can” so to speak…but I understand that we don’t yet know if there will be a Season 4. If the show gets cancelled, and there’s still time to make changes, I think Moore owes us some type of closure. The impression I get from reading elsewhere is that Moore intends to hit the reset button yet again. It might be finding Earth, but leaving open possibilities for a fourth season if the funding is available.
I wouldn’t particularly be adverse to a radical idea–let the Cylons win. Don’t think such a thing has ever been done before, so it would be a major shock. As Galactica blows up, flash back to Adama talking about whether humans are worthy of survival…
Yes, occasionally, but not tonight - he’s out on a date. 
(Did I blow your mind there? Sorry. We have an open marriage, and since I get grilled on it monthly over in MPSIMS or GD, I sometimes forget not everyone knows all about it. But my point still stands - I think almost everyone is still wistful or downright curious about at least one ex, even if they’ll never go there. Everyone I’ve ever talked to, at least. But not Chief, apparently.)
I change my comment to “Easy for you to say!”
It’s their highest rated show, and unlike Fox, they don’t seem eager to kill off programming.
A few Farscape fans might disagree with you on that.
I think that this episode established that Gaeta isn’t a Cylon.
When Boomer was still a sleeper Cylon, she tried to overcome her programming (e.g., attempting to eat her gun), but never managed to do so. In the end, she did what her Cylon programming wanted of her.
If Gaeta was a sleeper Cylon trying to kill Baltar, he would have either not rescued him from suicide, or would have hit the vein when going all neck-stabby.
If Gaeta was a sleeper Cylon trying to keep Baltar alive, he wouldn’t have pen-stabbed him in the first place. This isn’t a case like Shelley Godfrey where Baltar needed to be made more sympathetic to the humans; there’s no hope of him being made more sympathetic at this point in time.
I think poor Felix is just another sad example of a human. 'Tho I’m gonna act as though he finally got some Baltar nookie back on New Caprica, since it kinda-sorta makes sense with the secret whisperings scene left in after the Sagittaron plotline got dropped.
And it appears to be so – did you catch the Chief’s grimace after his first taste of “the good stuff”?
I have to agree with those who are tired of the Starbuck/Apollo/Dee/Anders plotline. It’s gotten tedious. I’d have been quite content to watch this episode as a half-hour show without their bits.
They make alcohol using spare engine parts. In season 1 Chief catches his crew making it and tells them he’ll show them how it’s “really done”. Also, they might have brought up some likker from their time on New Caprica. I mean, Roslin scored weed and they were boozing on homebrew at the party where Starbuck and Apollo hook up.
Love Trapezoid: idiotic and ruined the epi, I felt
other than fast forwarding through all of that, I quite liked it. I adore how Baltar has a personality disorder even under the influence of hardcore military drugging.
So what did he whisper to Gaeta? My first thought was that he’s going to tell on Gaeta for crushing on him/putting the moves on him or something…but in the podcast apparently it was supposed to be that Baltar was doing something to the Sagittarons during the stay on New Caprica and that he was going to pin the blame on Gaeta for it.
I like how they left it, though, because it’s open to much interpretation and they can play with it later on down the line.
sigh I feel like this season sort of peaked with the rescue on New Caprica. They’ve been mucking it up with too much Starbuck-Apollo, which I don’t care about.