Fisks following of Cains example will lead to Pegasus leaving the fleet to continue the fight when he and his crew get fed up with Galacticas pussified handling of their Cylon prisoner(s) (I think Baltar is going to show up on Galactica with 6 ending up in the brig alongside Boomer, this would explain some of the violent behavior we saw from Boomer in one of the preveiws) Fisk is a good guy and this will allow him to get Pegasus out of the show with a decent and believable excuse.
No they won’t. If needed, they could rig the models with little adjustable stands for the z-axis.
Eh, I still don’t think so. He was eulogizing his captain in front of her crew. I think his aim would have been more to make them feel better than announce new policy directions. I guess we’ll see who’s right.
I tend to agree with this. Cain was a bastard, but she didn’t die in disgrace or anything. She did save their asses all this time. Her eulogy isn’t the time to say anything but nice things and that you’re going to follow in her best footsteps, and just ignore the worst parts. I’ve never heard an officer take command and begin with “there’s gonna be lots of changes around here (even though most people who’ve served in the military know there are going to be lots of changes).” Certainly not at the eulogy of the officer you’re replacing.
As for what’s going to become of Pegasus, I give up guessing. Ron Moore is just too good at not doing what I expect.
Would it be that bad if Pegasus stuck around for awhile? This whole show we’ve had a single, 40-year-old about to be made into a floating museum Battlestar miraculously keeping a rag-tag fleet of 49,000 humans alive. Makes for good drama, but in a way it’s not very realistic. Seems like most of the time when the Cylons show up, they show up with two Basestars and all Galactica can do is hold them off for a few minutes while the fleet runs. Now it looks like they can reasonably stand their ground against two Basestars, and it makes humanity’s survival a bit more plausible. Galactica was getting pretty short on Vipers there for awhile, maybe Pegasus can make more?
BTW, what’s Roslyn’s survivor count these days? I’ll have to check, but I don’t think she’s added the crew of Pegasus to her count yet.
Regarding the 2D battle maps, how does our current Navy handle submarines, surface ships and aircraft? That’s 3D, but do we use 3D battle maps?
Probably not applicable. The submarine can be, what 1,000 feet below? I don’t see that being important compared to being several miles away by the compass. Space on the other hand is infinite in either of three dimensions.
Very thing I thought of. But didn’t we see Apollo reaching for something in a pocket on his suit’s leg, and then remove his hand?
Seems to me that Tighe isn’t Navy, he’s Marines. (I seem to remember that point being brought up in the mini-series.) And since he isn’t an officer of the line, to continue with your Navy analogy, that would mean he’s ineligible to command a Battlestar, not matter what his rank. Next senior officer that we’ve seen is Apollo, followed closely by Starbuck. Who knows who is left onboard Pegasus to run it - and Adama may remove all of them from positions of authority just because of them following Cain’s unlawful and immoral orders.
So Kar was ready to kill Cain, but then gives that eulogy? Shakespeare, anyone?
Ron Moore explains the reason for the 2D maps in (I think) one of the podcasts. I don’t remember his exact words, but he says they use it because the audience remembers the plan better from viewing it that way than if they try to explain it using flashier methods - that it gets lost in translation. I’ll agree that it’s simple and effective.
I also like how they can come up with a new model to stick on the board at a moments notice. Who wouldn’t want to be the Galatica model maker? 
That’s me times two! Take a look at some of my predictions from last week’s thread. I think I’m 0 for … however many. That’s generally a good thing, though, so I’m happy.
I can safely say at this point, though, that I have no idea where they’re headed next. Does the Pegasus stick around, will it disappear for whatever reason, or will it be destroyed? They’ve done a good job at not giving us any clues to this question one way or another.
For that matter, where will the fleet be heading next? Will they continue to run away, or start to plan a strategy to return to their homes? No way to tell.
How is the political situation going to develop? Will Roslyn die soon, continue to “hang on”, or find a miraculous cure? What’s Zarek up to? Questions, questions, questions. All I can say for sure is that these questions’ll keep me glued to the tube for next week’s episode.
For what it’s worth, I had a fellow Galactica fan over last night to catch up with the two episodes we’ve had so far, and I made a point of not showing him the preview for the second half (with Cain’s “frak you” to Gina). Not having any idea what was coming made a huge difference.
Also, looking at the whole thing together, it’s noteworthy that in the first half, during the montage where Adama and Cain are making their respective decisions to assassinate the other, Cain is just as conflicted about the choice as Adama is; and in the scene that follows, when Starbuck is giving her briefing and Cain and Adama are eyeing each other across the map, just like Adama, Cain is also wrestling with her conscience. Maybe she’s not wrestling as hard, and she certainly doesn’t have the same decision process as Adama, but she’s not sociopathically blasé about it, either. It’s a tough call, for her as well as for him.
The point is, I think it’s a misreading of her character to see her as simply a psychotic power-hungry bitch (or <izzard> a mass murdering fuckhead </izzard>). The show makes a point of giving us a glimpse of the person behind the facade.
And one more thing: Regarding Starbuck’s claim that the fleet was better off with Cain than without her, I think most of us would agree that Starbuck is wrong, that she doesn’t know about Cain’s acts of piracy, that she’d change her mind if she knew how Cain treated her civilian fleet. But y’know what? That’s not necessarily true. Starbuck may be aware of what happened, and thinks what she thinks anyway. I mean, consider the real-world fact that we have nationally prominent Americans, and even people on this very board, defending the bombing of the Pakistani village and the deaths of innocent civilians as “a dark but necessary choice in a time of war.” You have to do what you have to do to survive, they say, and you live with the consequences; but the point is that you live.
Cain says repeatedly that they’re in a war situation, that she has broad authority, that she did what she thought was necessary for what she saw as the overall good of her people. Does the fact that most of us disagree, by itself, make her wrong?
I thought he looked for the patch and it had been lost in the ejection. I watched it over and over again; he just moves the cloth to read the pressure gauge, then covers the gauge.
Then why is he the executive officer? That would be like Bill Clinton being Vice President.
Don’t forget, they now know the general direction of Earth. But Starbuck definitely wants to go back to Caprica. We may see some tension from that. Adama & Roslyn may want to continue towards Earth, Starbuck may use her influence on Pegasus to go back to the Colonies. Starbuck loved Cain’s desire to take them back & kick the Cylons out.
I hate that phrase. Say something like “Peradventure it shall come to pass.”
Yes. I think there is a difference killing babies in Dresden because they are where a target is and lining families up against a wall. The latter is Nazi stuff.
I think they were referring to later, where Apollo just gives up and moves his hand away from the hole, letting the air vent out.
Adama said when he promoted him, IIRC, “because you’re the best man for the job.” Someone else with an encyclopaedic memory of the script is going to have to confirm/correct the wording, though.
But he’s the XO, and apparently was before the attack, too. He’s either eligible for a Fleet line officer billet or he’s not.
How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have a thankless hotshit pilot/training officer/sniper/Pyramid player/everything else she’s the best at/almost daughter in law.
Actually, I’m as puzzled by Cain’s death wish as Apollo’s. C’mon, if someone who hates you is pointing a gun at your face, isn’t *your * first reaction going to be pretty physical? Or are you going to hold still and say “Frak you!” if you don’t really want to die right there?
Well, to be fair, Cain was pretty screwed.
You’re face-to-face with someone you can’t talk out of killing you. They’re armed. They’re faster. They’re superhumanly strong.
You’re fi-zucked. May as well spit in your enemy’s eye, scream your defiance, etc.
I still want to know where Baltar is going to hide Gina, though.
-Joe
I like the idea that Gina downloaded into Baltar’s brainchip (which could be organic and therefore not show on his X-ray). Pussywhip Six may have been erased to make room for her (“I’ve had enough of your controlling instinct. I’m dumping you and dating your sister instead. She owes me and will do what I want. Have a nice life! Oh, wait, the Resurrrection ship is gone - too bad”), or else we’re going to see Tricia Helfer in some hot twin-on-twin holodeck-babe action now.
Why was Six so frightened of Baltar speaking to Pegasus Six? Has he figured out how to hide her in his head in addition to or instead of Six? Maybe Six occupies a little flash drive in there.
In the miniseries and in the credits of the series, she is standing behind him when the nuke goes off. Did she shield him and transfer to the thumb, er, nose drive in his head?
Why wouldn’t he have done it back when she was slamming his face into mirrors? Rather, how did he figure out how to do it?
By definition, the XO is in the command line: everyone but the CO reports to him. And Tigh advanced to acting CO when Adama ate Boomer’s pistol rounds. The way it’s set up, the fleet ranks are:
Admiral
Commander
Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Lietenant Junior Grade
Chief Petty Officer
Petty Officer/Sergeant
Specialist
The insiginia suck.