Prediction:
I think we now have a pretty good idea of how Pegasus is going to go bye-bye.
Agreed that the deus ex machina was a cop out. Granted, they had painted themselves into a corner by the first show, but they’ve shown themselves able to get out of worse situations than that with some really cool out-of-left-field solutions. Ones that satisfied. Feels like Ron phoned this one in. Ptui.
Really enjoyed how Baltar was on the knife-edge of coming back to the humans’ side. Until he read Roslyn’s letter.
My lovely and observant wife (standing beside me) would like me to add that she thinks it’s interesting how the show is starting to focus on the increasingly obvious military junta and the citizenry that is beginning to actively oppose it. She’s particularly interested in the eventual (if any) resolution between the two. (Insert tongue in cheek here)"'Cause we’re the USA and we gotta make sure that it shows how the forces of democracy’ll come in and liberate those downtrodden masses."
Did the nuclear device seem a bit small and light to anyone?
I was given to understand that plutonium was rather heavy and gave off radiation that must be shielded.
It seemed a bit puny to me too, but I’ve never seen the actual nuclear device inside missiles/bombs.
I’d forgotten about that. I totally fell for it until I saw the glowing spine.
I assumed that the case it was in was a shielding case built for it and the radiation was the reason Baltar said that Gina should open it.
No idea about the weight though.
Anyone else find bespeckled natural blonde Gina WAAAAY more hotter than platinum blonde 6?
She wore glasses and tied her hair back. Totally foolproof disguise.
The “whose baby did Six mean” question is resolved. There wasn’t ever going to be a Six-Baltar rugrat; the “our” in “our baby” meant “all of humanity and Cylondom’s”.
Anti-abortion? No, I think it was a pro-stem-cell tract. The Cylon-appeasing bomb-throwers just don’t make sense either.
2 lame eps in a row now. That shark had better stay the hell away from my damn show! Grrr.
Cylon baby commercial??!! Where was I? Was that in the background somewhere or did I just accidentally zap through it when I fastforwarded through the (real) commercials?
I dunno…I thought the ep was OK. This show is just so far above everything else on TV these days it’s hard for me to find fault.
I’m looking forward to next week…didn’t the preview say something about “The Redemption of Apollo”? Yeeee!!!
I didn’t keep it when I burned the DVR to DVD, but it looked like the baby’s middle finger was raised a bit. 
Never heard of a suitcase nuke? At its heart, any nuclear warhead is just two smallish lumps of material. Everything else is just a way to cram the two lumps together at the critical moment.
It’s worked for Superman for fifty years!
There are artillery shells, too, but I wonder how much they weigh and how much shielding is required.
Of all the things I found weak & lame about this episode, the fact that the nuke is kinda smallish doesn’t even rate my list. If they’ve got FTL drives and magic Cylon baby blood, a small suitcase nuke makes perfect sense.
HelloKitty the baby commercial is right after the explosion on the Tyllium refinery.
The cylon sympathizers, while interesting, also strike me as incredibly delusional. Obviosly they’re trying to draw parallels to real life here, though apparently the toaster huggers have a very poor grasp of history.
Adama:“THey attacked us”
Hippy:“They were enslaved”
Adama should have said: “They left and weren’t seen by us for 40 years. Were they enslaved then?” Plus the whole genocide thing.
I was kinda hoping that Adama would smack the cylon lover hippy around some more.
Oh, and the roslin thing made me very uncomfortable. It felt too much like a Deus Ex Machina to me. If it had only delayed her death a couple more episodes, it wouldn’t have bothered me, but this…
Please Ron, don’t screw this show up.
I also agree about Balter. He’s acting pretty insane at this point, with about a dozen witnesses. And the fact he gave a nuclear weapon to terrorists is nothing less then treason.
Strangely enough, when I saw that end shot, I said “Terrorists have a nuclear weapon…and only one man has 24 hours to stop it”.
To me, this felt like a tip of the hat to the Council of Twelve in the original series - which, after their blundering lead to the Cylon attack that destroyed the Colonies, continued to insist that the Cylons would be nice to them if they just stopped trying to shoot down their fighters.
This was a disapointing episode. Where the hell did the Cylon Sympathizers come from??? And if Roslyn knows about Baltar and 7, why the hell didn’t she tell Adama when she thought she was on her deathbed??? And… it’s just not believable that Helo wouldn’t understand the danger that fetus might pose. I don’t care about the fate of all humanity (including myself), you’re not going to touch my offspring!! Yeah, right.
Anyway, I didn’t see the Cylon comercial either. What are you talking about, minty?
Something else.
We already know that military spacecraft had radiation detectors built in. Isn’t it going to be fairly obvious something’s wrong when a radation alarm goes off while a viper is passing cloud 9?
In the episode 33, they didn’t detect any nukes aboard the Cylon-controlled ship until it began an attack run towards Galactica. Maybe the nukes have to be primed in some way, ready to explode, for the detectors to work?
I don’t think the Tylium ship was destroyed; they were going to wreck it’s engines so it couldn’t follow the fleet, but when approached by the boarding party whoever had the explosives blew up the docking bay or bridge they were in.
Also, I think we are seeing the emergence of Evil Baltar. Sure he was always a selfish git, but he came off more spoiled and narcisstic than really evil, with redeeming qualities. But now, he’s definitely developed a “Frak You” attitude towards Roslyn and Adama.
Regarding the Peace movement: there have always been idiot pacifists, but I think what we’re seeing is an undercurrent of desperation in the civilian fleet. Up to now, sheer survival has taken precedence over longer term considerations. But now people are waking up to the fact that they have no home, their lives are in constant danger, and for all they know they’ll be spending the rest of their lives aboard ship. That would make enough people desperate enough to ask “has anyone even TRIED to talk to the Cylons?”. All you need then is one or two genuine crackpots, some cynical demagogues looking to become leaders, and a Cylon infiltrator telling people what they want to hear. Adama lost a LOT of public support when Roslyn was imprisoned and martial law declared.
My take on GinaSix is that she has reverted to sabateur/ infiltrator mode, and is simply using Baltar. She is NOT the Six that cared enough ablout Baltar to shield him from a nuclear blast.
I think that Roslyn now is wondering if seeing Baltar with a Six was a true memory or a hallucination. She’s never really trusted him, but is going to have to do some checking before she accuses him of anything. Remember, Baltar has already been accused, and cleared, of being a traitor.
W.A.G.: in the upcoming elections, Baltar will break with Roslyn and run against her for president.
Apollo: no idea. Dualla: no idea Cally: no idea.
I didn’t think this was a bad episode. Sure, the cancer cure thing was stupid, but we all knew it was coming. It was kind of like the producers looked at the audience, shrugged with embarrassment, and said, “Let’s just get through this dumb thing and we’ll get back to normal.”
My bigger concern is the nuclear weapon, because that has cliche written all over it. I really hope they end up doing something surprising with that, instead of having the peaceniks threaten to set it off, only to be thwarted by a heroic rescue as the countdown timer approaches zero.
I suspect that the device is, like the other FTL ships, powered by Tyllium.
The thing is, they did try talking to the Cylons. In the mini-series, the president offered an unconditional surrender, didn’t he? The Cylons never even acknowledged the call. Cylons show up, they instantly attack. There’s no negotiating or any communication.
They’ve got Boomer, a real live Cylon, and even she won’t try to talk to the Cylons. She understands the only thing you can do with Cylons is run, defend yourself, or die.
What makes these peaceniks think the Cylons aren’t going to try to kill them on sight?
Sure, now we’ve got Gina telling people they need to let the Cylons rescue them, but what evidence is there that Cylons would ever consider such a thing? Rescue them? They’re hell-bent on destroying them each and every time they find them.
It’s times like this that I wish I didn’t know so much biochemistry. What the frak was Baltar trying to illustrate on the light box and what does that have to do with antigens? I could almost buy the lack of antigens bit, that’s what allowed them to transfuse the blood directly from Pop-tart into Roslin, without her succuming to a negative donor-recipient interaction. And maybe the lack of antigens in the blood also means there is a total lack of any pathogenic antigens in their blood, i.e., the Cylon’s immune cells are massively efficient at eliminating any foreign invaders (bacteria/viruses) and/or abnormal cells (such as cancerous cells), that all traces of them are instantly removed. However, even with this explanation, the near-instantaneous cure of Roslin was way over the top.
Secondly, how the hell would it be possible to sneak that nuke off the Galactica so easily? If Adama had any sense, he would have had the lab containing the nuke under constant guard.
deus ex machina indeed.