Battlestar Galactica 2.8 — "Final Cut" (open spoilers)

I loved seeing the other sides of our characters (towel not withstanding).

I was surprised and felt wicked seeing the Cylons lounging in the (imo Caprican) theater watching BattleStar Gallactica. Where was the popcorn? It was a good touch conveying just how much the Cylons are “playing” and ‘playing’ the humans.

Since the Cylons watched the news footage, they could have picked the report up from any transmission within the fleet. But then the “cut” scenes showed. Those could have been sent intentionally by Biers or as part of her subconscious programming. Caprican Biers knows she’s a Cylon, but G-Biers might be like the original G-Boomer, unaware of her true nature. They could even push it to the limit and have C-Biers be a Cylon copy of the 100% real human G-Biers, and the home movies and the cuts were sent by the real Cylon, the cameraman. So it’s still up in the air.

The home movies at the end seem to indicate that the Caprican Cylons have access to goings on in the fleet, but at the simple level of whatever a human/Cylon spy could acquire. So they were surprised at Boomer’s baby. This also indicates that Six has never communicated back home. I wouldn’t be surprised if no one knows about or even suspects there is a Six.

Lumpy has an interesting point. Perhaps Six is really Count Iblis. It would explain all the red outfits. Maybe the Caprican Cylons are trying to get humans to Earth (grace under fire) and get a god-child born, to transform the human race into their next superior form. While Six is the Devil and is trying to create an anti-[del]Starbuck[/del]christ.[ul][]Anyway, I choked at the theme song and liked it.[]I liked Lee’s defense of the pilots and how eveyone is quick to point out the bad and not the good.[]I liked seeing the pressure crack someone.[]I thought Ellen looked too comfortable all bound and gagged :D[]I liked Tighe saying, “That was an accident. This is a choice”[]I liked Adama’s parting whisper of, “Uh, and stay away from the bar.” :)And I especially liked Adama’s grudging statement that this is war and he’s not going to hang men out to dry for public opinion. That everyone will have to live with (the Gideon).[/ul]

Re: the 02 scrubbers, if you noticed Xena told hte camera man to get some of that on film and he started to then when she turned around he shook his head and wandered off without filming them…I dont think hes the toaster.

I do have one point of confusion here.
when a cylon dies it gets uploaded to the other models of the same line right?
so why didnt the new Caprica Boomer know the Galactica boomer was still alive? no upload = no death right?

or is Galactica Boomer truly on her own, she did say she wasnt wired in so perhaps shes truly acting as an independant.

Come to think of it…Moma Boomer didnt know how Galactica Boomer died until she was told…hmmmmm

Probably due to the distance that the Fleet was from Caprica. Or wherever the Toaster Server is.

That’s an interesting thought that XenaBot on BG is unaware, while the rest of the XenaBots are more like Six and the Geek from the Pilot.

The preview of the next episode looks interesting. Seems they really are going to do some major damage on the ship, and BoomerBot has to save the day. Seems to me she can’t be trusted, if only because she is constantly saving the meatbags lives.

I thought the scrubber thing was pure sarcasm. What’s-her-face had clearly been ordered to show them around all the most boring parts of the ship - she was showing the food lockers, the air scrubbers - all things the reporter was in no way interested in. It struck me as a little bit of passive aggressiveness. You know, “You want free access? Here you go. You can look at ALL our food!”

Xena’s instruction to get a closeup of the scrubber was her way of pointing out that she wasn’t fooled. “Oh, yeah, get a closeup of THAT, because it’s SO amazing!” The cameraman played along, but knew what she was really saying.

Lessee, Boomer, Six, Leoben, and the photographer guy whose name escapes me were in the miniseries. Yep, you got it.

I dunno, it humanizes him somehow, along with the smokes and the tats. About time he showed more facets than “the best damn flight-deck looie in the Fleet”.

Not stated.

That’s Kandyse McClure, and yes, I’m with you. With a name like Anastasia, no wonder her character goes by Dee, though.

As a means of gaining trust, of proving herself to be on “their side,” perhaps. However, Slyfrog’s point about the Cylon detector is a good one; it beggars belief that they would have allowed a civvie to wander the flagship largely unsupervised without previously subjecting her to Baltar’s test. In the episode where Baltar poisoned Tyrol to force Boomer to confess the number of Cylon infiltrators, when Tigh confronted Baltar about the test’s failure to expose Boomer, Baltar covered his ass by claiming “early flaws in the methodology” and said the current test was pretty much foolproof. So either Biers somehow managed to avoid being screened, which seems unlikely, or Baltar caught the truth of her identity and lied about it, which we weren’t shown. Either way, regardless, while it might have been a short-term achievement to have allowed Tigh to get fragged by Private Pyle, it may better serve the long-term plan, to which we are not yet privy, for Biers to subtly worm her way into the confidence of the fleet’s leadership.

If I were the cylon in charge, I’d do all I could to make sure that Tighe stays in the line of command. If he dies, someone much more competant might end up as XO.

You’re obviously unfamiliar with the concept of the “vice presidency”.

Something about a pitcher of warm spit comes to mind, although I fail to see what the temperature has to do with it.

That’s pretty funny.

Anyway, we can substitute, “Chief Scientist guy we gave a nuclear warhead to,” then. :slight_smile:

So, is Lucy Lawless really a blonde? If only there were some way of finding out . . . .

Please note for future use: there’s no a in either competent or independent.

As it happens, the SciFi Channel was running the original show this morning; I hadn’t seen it since about 1980, so I’d forgotten just how cheesy it really was. Ridiculous acting (either hammy or wooden); entertaining hair; and everything sounds goofy in that mechanical Cylon voice. The basic storyline seems a lot simpler, too: the Cylons are all mechanical, Baltar is openly a villain, and the Cylon agenda is definitely to destroy the fleet; they just can’t seem to manage it. Oh, and Lloyd Bridges shows up and kicks some righteous ass. (Honestly, who would you rather have watched every week – stiff, solemn Lorne Green or Lloyd Bridges, who’s got a wicked grin and looks like he might actually be crazy?)

Nice term. Must have spent more on conditioner than on film.

Who wouldn’t let his sons in Nevada go into town alone for a beer, despite being older than one of them.

One thought I had while watching thies episode…

Does the 2 Cylon raiders jumping in to receive the transmission from XenaBot (or causing a distraction for her to film the bridge in action) finally prove that the Cylons know exactly where the fleet is at all times? Seems like that would have been too much of a coincidence for the raiders to show up then. The Cylons have to be constantly tracking them.

That’s at the root of the fierce debate about the show’s basic premise, which I suspect we won’t be able to resolve definitively until we have more information about the Cylon plan, at which point the militant nitpickers will pull out the DVDs and revisit the early seasons seeking even the flimsiest evidence of retconning. :slight_smile:

Which is why, as I mentioned in a previous post, I’m focusing more on the characters than the story framework.

Depends? Did Bridges pick the wrong week to quit sniffing glue? :slight_smile:

Proving there’s a web site for everything:EXPLORING LUCY LAWLESS HAIR COLOR MYTHS has multiple cites for her blondeness, although perhaps not the exact shade she showed on this episode.

There is no debate, only the fact that Ron Moore wouldn’t turn Our Heroes into a bunch of manipulated weenies.
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What does it matter? My eyes are ceramic. Caught a bazooka round at Little Big Horn. Or was it Caprica? The one without the Cylons.

Bridges:“This is the Target area”
Aide:“That’s minnesota, sir”
Bridges: “Damnit, man, That’s the Genius of my plan! We don’t have to trapse all over the galaxy to fight. We can do it right here at home and get some good fishing at the same time”
Aide:“But the enemy is over there!”
Bridge:“Then we’ll fly them here. They can bring their familes, we’ll teach’em to ice skate. Do I have to think of everything?”