not to mention it’s somewhat similar to the “360” shot used in “That 70’s Show”, i expected the Meatbags to start huffing antifreeze and giggling if the camera panned another 360
I should think that would ruin the character.
I think we’re moving onto that scene from a Firefly episode where the prostitute says to the baby “Say goodbye to Daddy” and shoots him in the head.
Well, let’s hope so.
In one of the SciFI interviews, Moore says they are going to lose some characters that have been around. My guess is that the will kill off husbands or wives. Characters and their TV shows tend to be less interesting if married.
Was it wrong that the first thing that popped into my mind when we saw StarBrat lying face down with blood dribbling from her forehead was
“hmm, wonder if Hybrids ressurect when killed?”
could’ve been an interesting science experiment, no? 
another question, if two Human-Cylon hybrids were to reproduce, what would the likely offspring be?
50% Toaster, 50% Human
100% Human
100% Toaster
75/25 Toaster/Human or Human/Toaster…
any number of percentage points either way
or even a Cylon body with a Human conciousness inside…
would hybrids even be fertile
Why are people talking about “re” commisioning Sharon? That Sharon was never commisioned in the first place, no? She just had a uniform when she first met Helo.
I’m sort of new to the series though so I may have missed stuff.
I actually am sort of confused: if there were/are lots of Cylon inflitrators with the fleet, how come they don’t/didn’t simply radio the Cylons to tell them where the fleet is at any given moment all throughout the series until now? And when did the ship find out about Xena’s cover being blown, since she’s walking around openly now? Has anyone ever explained why only some of the twelve have shown themselves, even on episiodes and scenes where ONLY Cylons are present? It’s one thing to keep them hidden from the humans, but what’s the explanation with why the rest aren’t part of the councils and doings on of the rest of the Cylons?
What the frak? I waited until 9. My wife watched the webisodes, we had friends over, sitting together, talking it over, and turned on the TV at 9:00.
It started at 8:00…I missed half the fucking show. Half the fucking show. Did this happen to any other west coasters? I just got satellite, I figured “my” satellite was on central time, but no…the guide said it was 9:00.
Cervaise? You get screwed too?
My friend (who thought it started at 8:00) recorded it and will be burning it to DVD for me, but I’m stilled pissed.
So pissed, I didn’t read over what I wrote. Ahem.
“I’m still pissed.”
And I should clarify as well that my onscreen guide said it was 9:00, but that BSG started at 8:00.
Everyone getting married was a little irritating. I can understand Sharon Valerie-Agathon. Most of the other marriages did make the characters just a bit less interesting.
I’m not sure Ron Moore has really addressed exactly whether there is some sort of FTL communication, or if an FTL ship actually has to jump someplace and then communicate via regular-speed radio. There’s been some strange events. At the beginning of season one, there was a ship within the fleet they ended up having to destroy with (possibly) a thousand passengers on board because it had been rigged with nukes. At the time it seemed the ship may have had a beacon on it which would have had to work at FTL speeds.
Later, when a Ms. Godfrey showed up and accused Baltar of being a traitor, it seemed she was snuck into the fleet from outside, then spirited away at the end. I mean, they never did find her, so she had to go somewhere. I figure the Cylons still knew where they were back then.
Still later when D’Anna Biers was introduced as a reporter it seemed the Cylons had to actually send a Raider in to get her recordings and bring them back to the Cylons. So it seems they can’t send transmissions faster than light, yet for most of the show they’ve somehow almost always known where the fleet was. How? Beats me.
When a Cylon dies, as long as there’s a resurrection ship in range, it transmits its consciousness at FTL speeds. Huh.
At the end of last season the Cylons didn’t know where the fleet was and they had to hang around and wait until they detected a nuclear explosion a light year away. Hmm.
It’s my opinion a big part of why Ron Moore jumped ahead one year was because he wrote himself into too many plot threads he’s too lazy to write himself out of. Xena being outed is just one thing we’re to assume just happened while we weren’t watching.
Why haven’t we already seen all twelve models? Ah, I can’t blame Moore for that. What would be the fun in knowing who all the secret Cylons are going to be? Although, he hasn’t revealed an established character be a Cylon. Mostly he’s been introducing new characters and revealing their Cylon-hood. That’s no fun. Immediately suspect every new character!
So Xenabot referred to one of the Sixes as “Caprica Six” near the end. Have they ever used that as a name for her on the show before? I wonder it that was a shout out to all the fans of BSG who have been calling her Caprica Six for a while now in message boards.
It certainly seems that there is FTL communication. I mean, the transmission of “we’re connected to New Capirca” from the Raptor came over in real time into Galatica from the Raptor, for goodness sakes, and they can’t have been sticking anywhere near the planet at that time if they had to jump away and back. It really does seem like a big plot hole. Either the Cylons want to destroy the fleet or they don’t, and they certainly seem to want to destroy the fleet for most of the series as they try several times. And yet, all their plants seem to be radio silent. They didn’t have a SINGLE cylon agent left around to tell the rest about New Caprica until the nuke went off? I mean, as far as we know, Xena’s cover had yet to be blown by the time of the decision to settle. Why didn’t she tell the Cylons where they were, hijack a ship or something?
I know it’s no fun to reveal the remaining of the twelve… but there needs to be some reason offered as to why these models never appear even in completely Cylon-safe areas like Caprica or the cylon-only councils.
Not if it was a scalp wound, and a separate brain injury. The scalp bleeds a lot.
Anyone else share my husband’s theory that Leo waited for Kara to go in the bathroom, then threw the kid down the stairs?
I dearly hope she’s playing him, but I think they’re probably playing it as this is her vulnerability, due to her abusive upbringing. I hate that - it’s way too *Hannibal * for me.
Other than the distracting fat makeup, I liked everything else a lot. I liked the weird sensation of flipping my perception between “watching characters I like fighting for freedom” and “holy crap, they are showing someone praying for strength, then strapping explosives to himself and blowing up guilty and innocent alike, and he’s a hero! On American television! Ron Moore has balls, man.”
Stupid Helen. If I were her, I would have just told my husband what they wanted me to do, then told them I told him, and have no access to secrets. Hopefully, as mentioned above, Tigh & Co. didn’t really trust her.
The blood looked dark, slowly seeping from an ear, not the scalp.
That wraps up the webisode plot line, if you watched them (and you should). Duck’s character makes a lot more sense with that context provided. So does Jammer’s.
She couldn’t have played that game for long before Dean Stockwell caught on and took her Saul away again. Whore that she is, she still loves her husband more than anything.
They talked about the fleet rendezvous right in front of her, and Saul even handed her the damn map. They trusted her.
No coincidence.
Now see, I figured that the Raptor made contact with the planet, then told Galactica about it when they jumped back. The two scenese were just juxtaposed for drama’s sake.
And add me to the camp that Casey’s “accident” wasn’t an accident. I’m sure it was a ploy to get to Kara.
I think it’s an amalgamation of secret police in general, current Iraqi police working for what could be described as an occupation government, and coalition soldiers conducting sweeping raids in Iraq (if not currently so much, at least in the past). Probably a few more references in there, too.
Also, I think dramatically it helps set up the double irony of Chief’s attitudes towards Jammer and Gaeta.
Jammer- thinks he’s a swell guy, doesn’t know he’s NCP and helped conduct the raid that took away his wife
Gaeta- thinks he’s scum working for the occupation government, doesn’t know he’s the one secretly feeding intelligence to the insurgency
I liked it, worth the wait.
Not being chesty really wondering:
OK, the Toasters can’t tell who Sharon is and there was an excellent reason given.
But can’t the Human models, or at the very least the Sharon Models, tell who she is?
I’ve lost track of my Sharons.
The one who shot Adama, the one who was crew, was shot by Callie, right?
She reincarnated and…which one is she now, the one on Galactica?
I’m thinking the cylons didn’t bring any models to New Caprica that hadn’t already been “outed.” They’re keeping the others hidden for tactical reasons. At least that’s how I rationalize not seeing them at the council meetings. Not all the models were there anyway. I don’t think the Leobon model was there.
I can’t accept that Starbuck has a kid. It just can’t be her kid. It would ruin the character. I want to see hard-drinking, sex-having, balls to the wall fighter Starbuck. Not Starbuck worrying about being a good mommy. Plus, I thought Boomer’s kid was being set up as some special hybrid that’s going to play an important part later on. It kind of diminishes her importance if she’s not the only one.
Who’s leading the resistance? Is it Tigh or Roslyn? I thought it was Roslyn at first, but Tigh went his own way with the suicide bombers even after her protests.
I think Ellen’s face bruises were from rough sex. She and a lot of other characters are in a world of hell right now with the choices they’re facing: Baltar, Gaeta, Jammer. It was interesting when the scenes flipped between them and Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders who were confident they were doing the right thing (though sometimes ambivalent about the suicide bomber methods).
By the way: where the hell did they get the dog? I can’t imagine the human fleet keeping a dog alive after spending so much time running from the cylons with limited resources.
I think (could be wrong) that the one on Galactica in the beginning of the episode was the one with Helo on Caprica. The one who had the baby. The one on New Caprica in the beginning (they’re both there now) was the one who shot Adama, got shot by Cally, and was later resurrected.
I’ve never figured out how both have early memories of Galactica pre Cylon invasion.
Maybe they’re resurrecting the robot dog from the original series. 