In the mini-series (I appreciate a long time ago now) Six referred to the Cylons as humanity’s children. If only the centurions were created by the colonies, why would the rest of the Cylon race be so hostile to them? Why launch all out an unprovoked war without even saying hello?
In Razor we see the first attempts of the Cylons to create organic/mechanic hybridization and it is implied that is what leads to the skin jobs. You could argue that what we saw in Razor was a dead end and that the Cylon centurions hooked up with the skin jobs who had been around longer than the colonies had, but that doesn’t seem very consistent.
The Cylons don’t refer to themselves as separate species - the fighters, centurions, hybrids, base stars and skin jobs all seem to consider themselves one race of Cylons.
If you’re right that the original seven Cylon models are part of the 12 lords of kobol, then why do they never mention that? Even to each other? The only reason they wouldn’t is if they had wiped their memories of that knowledge, and what possible reason would they have for doing that? More to the point, who then programmed them not to think about the final five?
I believe that one of the Lords of Kobol died before leaving Kobol, and so wouldn’t have been around any more to go to Earth and become a Cylon model. Not to mention there’s that the Lords of Kobol are (apparently) the twelve Olympian gods, and the Cylon models are not divided six-and-six between the genders as the Olympians are.
And, of course, the Cylons would in that case have used the fact that they used to be the Lords of Kobol when trying to refute the Colonials’ beliefs in the gods, instead of weakly asserting that the Colonials’ gods aren’t real while the Cylons’ one god is.
And, by the way, the gender distribution of the twelve models means nothing to the gender distribution within the Cylon race. It is entirely possible that the fembots off the production line outnumber the boybots… and that even seems to be the case from what we’ve seen of Cylons wandering around the Basestars we’ve seen. Leobens, Dorals, Simons, and Cavils seem to show up in far fewer numbers than all the naked Eights roaming about.
No, they definitely called Tyrol “Specialist” after the argument with Adama. He traded in his spiffy orange jumpsuit for a boring green one as well. Seems odd that they moved him to crap maintenance jobs though - even if he’s busted in rank, you’d think they’d still want his experience & knowledge on the flight deck.
And given the clusterfrak of ranks that Glen Larson left (a Commander outranks a Colonel who outranks a Captain, all in the same service?), I think Moore just threw his hands up when he had to figure out what familiar-to-viewers rank to use for naval enlisted man lower than a chief. Seaman hardly seems apropriate, and Spaceman would be much too silly.
That would be Athena, the goddesse of wisdom and warfare. Her tomb on Kobol had a holographic map of the zodiac as seen from Earth. Of course it’s unclear what it means for a god to “die”. Billions of people today worship a man who “died” nearly 2,000 years ago. :rolleyes:
Really? All this time I missed Col Tigh being a Colonel. Gee, I guess I missed post #104. Oh, wait. No I didn’t. What are you on about?
The Marines and Air Force have Colonels too. Honestly, do you read threads before posting? I didn’t know the Colonial ranks are a mish-mash of Navy & Army and oh yeah, we got some Marines too.
Not all of us have the frackin’ time to click every link. Or, given the significance of the topic, interest. We all *know * the names of the ranks already, to the full extent that it matters or that we care.
Do you *seriously * object to there being non-US-Navy ranks in the Colonial Fleet, after *this * many years of knowing ot? It’s a TV show.
Just FTR, I passed a water-well drilling truck on the freeway recently. One of the services it advertised was “Hydrofracking”.