North Carolinon?
Our Machine overlords are just using it to mess with us. We’re really in weird sleeper pod thingies as batteries.
[Ralph Wiggum Voice]I’m double A![/RWV]
If this ever develops into a regular series, I’m sure there would be some episode or on-going storyline involving the actual discovery that Earth really does exist.
Let’s just hope that should they ever find Earth, it’s not going to be 1980. What a horrible thing to relive.
Thanks to the sheer geekiness I’m experiencing thanks to this thread, I ran across an interview with Kent McCord, who played one of the Not Starbuck And Apollo main characters from Galactica 1980 and had been on Adam 12 before that. He mentions numerous arguments he had with the network bigwigs about how kids understood what was going on when he was on the successful cop show in the same time slot, so they really didn’t have to dumb down the sci-fi show so much… He says he knew they were irrevocably screwed when he saw the script with the Galactica children gaining superpowers because of Earth’s “lower gravity”… and using said powers to win a baseball game. <<shudder>>
Imagine if those kids also developed powers of flight, heat and x-ray vision. :rolleyes:
Interesting to see the opinions of people who didn’t like or didn’t see the origanal show. I didn’t much care for it but I big fan of the original. I think it would have gone down a lot easier if they had just dropped the character names completely. These characters don’t share traits with the old so start fresh. It may be why I liked the Chief Tyrol character the most. However, since this is the only BSG going I’m sure I’ll follow it.
Things about the new that bothered me:
A ship about to be decomissioned would still have it’s armaments. It was still carrying it’s vipers and appeared to have a full crew, so why not have a single bullet to shoot down that lone nuke? And why so little damage from a direct hit? magic metal I guess.
The whole first scene was useless. let’s tip our hand by blowing up a remote station first and lets sacrifice a few of troops to do it.
I the initial sex with Baltar help sell the idea that he’s been seduced but it seemed like the first 30 minutes every time a man and women got together they had sex. Fun to watch, but not what you expect when this was billed as real and gritty.
Did #6 survive the blast that took out Baltars house? It’s pretty clearly established that they are almost perfect copies of humans and organic so she should have been ripped up? And where did that terminator strength come from? Again they are basically human.
Smoke detector bug in plain sight on the bridge?
There’s more but I’ll stop with the bullets. Not sure why they decided to go the bullet route but I can see that creating a pretty be problem to write around. They’ve jumped completely past known space and it looked to me like they nearly shot their wad. Guess they’ll run into another friendly ammo dump out there with plenty of standard colonial bullets. Or maybe they will just ignore it. Those vipers seem to be able to spew thousands of rounds without the obvious size to carry them.
When the president asked, “there is no Earth, is there?” and Adama replied, “yes, you’re right, Earth is a legend” I was thinking, "IANA lawyerion, but did he technically, irrefutably state there is no Earth and he knows there is no Earth? Or was there some wiggle room there? I was kinda thinking Adama in fact does know more than he’s letting on. He’s a sly old bird and knows that anyone could be a Cylon spy. And who trusts the president with really important stuff, anyway?
Oh, and I kinda liked the noodle slurping. Made him seem human, and made me hungry.
They said something like “The plating absorbed most of the blast,” so I imagine the magic metal is more mundane armor plating.
And he did say “Earth is a legend,” which doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I think it was just a hedge, in case they don’t find it.
Well, I mostly agree with Tars Tarkas. The second episode saved them from the horror of the first two totally wasted hours. I like that they’ve matured the story (and I definitely don’t mean the sex). While it has problems, I’m starved enough for this kind of entertainment that if they make it a series, I will probably watch. I’ve seen many episodes of Mutant X and still can’t say I like the show, but I keep hoping.
Among my complaints:
The Cylon Blonde Bombshell – for people who trumpeted the “no cliche” approach to telling this story, a blonde automaton evil, killing machine is pretty cliche these days.
Starbuck – Why is it that when you dump every cliche a typical male character would have into a female character, it isn’t considered cliche? She is horrible and I hate the choices the actress herself has made with the character.
On the other hand:
Adama and the President – very good characters (though on the sad side, I miss the Moses imagery of Lorn Greene and his beautiful voice).
Boomer – either a template or a plant that worked great for me!
Gaius Baltar – I like this guy (though he keeps reminding me of Alexander Siddig, and I think I’d rather see him in this role) I think he will unknowingly betray humanity or do it for incredibly complex and selfish reasons.
Don’t mind the retooled battlestar or vipers – but why have so much glass on a ship (and apparently not safety glass) – as Gilbert Gottfried would say, “What the F***?”
I’ll probably watch it – depending on what it’s up against, and even then, If possible, I’ll probably tape it.
Maybe a double, but not a home run, that’s for sure.
Rumor on one of the fan sites is that it won’t be picked up for a regular series. Too expensive. That’s not surprising considering the original was killed for that same reason. 20th rated show but production cost were way out of line for that kind of rating.
Was anybody else surprised that we didn’t get a huge armada attacking the colonies during the opening fight? You almost got the feeling that 2 raiders did the whole thing. I think they were going for the “leave them in the dark” style to build a feeling of tension and dread but it just fell flat to me.
I agree. In fact, I’ve seen several actors lately that look like Siddig and I keep thinking if that’s the look you’re going for, why not get the original? But I like the current Baltar actor too.
Two other actors/characters I like, and would hope get permanent roles. The president’s pilot when she was on the transport ship. I’ve seen him elsewhere, but his salt & peppery goodness seems to be getting better with age. Also, the other XO guy on the Galactica’s bridge that seems to do everything when Adama & Tigh aren’t there, and mostly everything when they are. He kinda reminds me of a gentler Ivanova from Babylon Five. I liked his interaction with Baltar and it seems not much gets done competently on the bridge without him.
A nuke in space does not have the same effect as it does on a planet with an atmosphere. When a nuke goes off in space it just generates a lot of heat and radiation. There is no shock wave or concussive blast. Those only happen when an atmosphere is present.
Yeah, I kind of got that same feeling.
Given all that stuff they were going through, I kind of took that scene as showing that Adama was so busy with everything that was going on that he didn’t have time to eat… and even then, the President interrupted him too.
Now that you mention it, yeah, I think you’re right. I can see how the decision was made to show the destruction of the colonies from the POV of the Galactica’s crew - outside the action and helpless to affect the outcome. Kinda like the battle of Wolf 359 on Star Trek TNG - including the fly-though of the fleet wreckage when Boomer and Helo have to set down on Caprica for repairs (I will admit being somewhat impressed with the destroyed battlestar they flew by).
Still, other battlestars would’ve been sending every scrap of info they could’ve to the fleet at large including video feed and tactical schematics of the battles. Modern US military forces do this, and it’s probably a role that Boomer’s “raptor” spacecraft would fill just as US “predator” UAV’s filled that role in Afghanistan.
As far as the destruction of the cities, even after using nuclear weapons on the major population centers, there would still be a lot of work to do to get rid of all the humans - although there were a lot of mushroom clouds on the horizon on Caprica when Boomer and Helo set down for repairs. Looks like the Cylons never want to be able to set foot on their planets of origin - at least not the new humanoid Cylons. If they’re really biological and are so human they pass medical exams, then all that radiation will kill them in short order and would continue to for thousands of years to come… If the Cylons want to use those planets for anything then conventional means would need to be used to wipe out the human survivors, and the skies of Caprica should’ve been black with Cylon ships strafing and bombing everything in sight. And Boomer and Helo and Baltar and Boxey and all the other Caprican survivors should’ve been toast. Especially Boxey. Maybe they got lucky because of the plot twist with Boomer. I’m thinking it’s more along the lines of the writers just not thinking that hard about it and deciding that nukes were the way to go.
Assuming they were functional, but remember they were all having all kinds of weird mechanical problems and one shut down just before it ran into the enemy. So you could assume that their video feeds, etc. were being jammed or otherwise messed up.
Elmwood, I’ve seen several fanboy website that hated the idea ling before the series came out. It centers around how they want the old show brought back and figure this will kill that idea for good. Someone mentioned the rumors on the fan websites that a series would not be made because it is too expensive. Well, the fanboys are hoping for this and it doesn’t suprise me that such a rumor would spread.
I liked the original BSG even thought it was a bit corny. This one was much better. The gratuitous sex was a bit overboard but the show has to appeal to a larger audience than just sci-fi nerds. Compared to Star Trek where every episode they pulled some miracle out of their ass to save the ship, the new BSG was a godsend. Real science fiction without a bunch of garbage technobabble thrown in to make it seem futuristic.
Must…resist…mention…of…BSG 1980…argh!!!
I e-mailed Sci Fi asking for a series. I figured the people who hate the idea of a new series are making their voice knows. Anyone wanting drop a line about this can do so by e-mailing program@www.scifi.com
I guess I am desperate for some decent science fiction on tv.
It might just be me, but when the Cylon ships first appeared in the brief fight with Galactica’s fighters, did anyone else think " It’s Batman?"
I thought that was Alexander Siddig at first too.
Starbuck’s voice is shrill. You can hear it best during the report she made from the edge of the cloud, before the last battle.
The Galactica’s front end used to look like a crocodile. Now it looks like a millipede. Check it out.
I didn’t realize it until someone pointed it out that in the original they were gambling at Carillon just one day after the colonies were wasted. There was no FTL travel, space was conveniently small enough to cruise around in with chemical rockets, but they had advanced lasers on the Vipers. I like how all these points were handled in the new incarnation.
Actually there was FTL travel but not all of the ships had that capability so they traveled at the speed of the slowest ship. The casino thing seemed goofy but the original story was based on the exodus bible story. Which, called for them falling pretty quickly back into sin, yada, yada, maybe the cylons won’t kill us if we just lay down our arms to prove we are no threat, yada, yada. I liked the fact that new story just skips that all together, and leaving the slowest ships behind was more intense. I still think that switching to bullets was a style choice that wasn’t thought out very well. It’s pretty easy to just say that the lasers are generated through the engine power somehow and long as you can continue to locate fuel you have weapons. Bullets have to be manufactured and as far as we know they have jumped far past known space. It’ll be interesting to see how they deal with that should a series be produced.
Can someone enlighten me on the Far Valley reference? They seemed to be refering to the Botany ship with the little girl which just reminded me of the one in the original series?