I didn’t like the ending. I am disappointed that I spent five years of my life watching the darn thing.
My thesis is that the Cylons won. The colonists lose all their technology save for the raptor Adama took to the planet. The kid they fought to rescue dies “early in life” and her fossilized remains are discovered as Lucy. The Cylons are left in possession of the Colony planets, New Caprica and starships. The humans are living with a neolithic culture. Galactica and the fleet are flown into the Sun.
Perhaps worst of all, Baltar lives.
Starbuck was a shost. Head Six and Head Baltar are angels.
G-d did it, and boy does that suck. I’d like for the protagonists to accomplish things on their own. Say, shoot Cavil while he’s holding the kid hostage a la Captain Mal.
“My thesis is that the Cylons won.”
“The Cylons are left in possession of the Colony planets, New Caprica and starships.”
We’re led to believe that all of the opposing Cylons were on base ship that was destroyed.
“The kid they fought to rescue dies “early in life” and her fossilized remains are discovered as Lucy.”
No, her fossilized remains are discovered as Lucy, and she’s hailed as the original ancestor of all of humanity. You can’t exactly become an ancestor if you don’t have progeny - they didn’t find a *child’s *remains - they found her remains.
Like or don’t like the fact that civilization reverted back to the neolithic - the fact is that it kept humanity alive for tens of thousands of years. That timeline would have been considerably shorter if they’d chosen to stay the course.
If true, it still leaves Cylons in posession of the Colony planets and technology while Adama & company eat grubs.
They did mention “Early in life” on the BSG episode. I can’t find a cite, but Lucycertainly didn’t look like a Cylon Human hybrid.
Bad planning on Moore’s part. Why on earth did he want to stick that in there?
Anyway, she lived long enough to have children by some smelly, Neolithic Australopithecus. Good times.
Nope. Remember the Cylons abandoned the colony planets before the end of s.2, just prior to the election & the one-year later jump. The two Cavils say they’ve had a change of heart and are leaving the humans be. It’s just that the planets were too irradiated to sustain life anymore. (True, the Cylons reneged on their promise to leave the humans alone after that, but we never saw them re-occupy Caprica or any other colony planet.)
And also, the Cylons can’t reproduce on their own or ressurect. Even if some of them survived the destruction of the base-ship, their race is gone in one generation.
The Colony was destroyed with the loyal Cylons - even if some base ship survived, would have the exact same status as galactica had at the beginning of the series. All the Infrastructure and supply is gone.
The Cylon Rebels were killed in the Civil war or are with the colonists on our Earth.
New Caprica was a miserable failure from the beginning - the planet wasn’t worth colonizing in the first place.
Our Earth is the only place in the known universe that has a chance for Humans and Cylons (Hulons? Cymans?). At the end of BSG, the only Cylons left are on our Earth, and a Baseship full of centurions.
…okay, Earth(1) is a irradiated wasteland with one bored Cylon on it.
Argh! I didn’t even really understand this yet! With Whatshername-the-evil-from-the-final-five dead, Ressurection gone. That takes every doubt I had out of the way, I really like the ending now! (and feel really dumb for missing this)
Who, over the millennia, devises a way using nanotech to create cyborgs out of living beings. Eventually, she goes insane, shaves her head, and launches out into space to re-make the universe in her image, using her new army-creating technology.
Isn’t there a Cylon home-world mentioned in the show but we never saw? I don’t think it’s the Shadow/Vorlon/Romulan ship that Cavil was on.
Some Centurions, Raiders & a Hybrid all left on their own to carve out their own destiny with their newly restored higher brain functions. I imagine God’s cycle got repeated again someplace other than Earth.
There was a raptor group sent out to find the Cylon homeworld and the group returned, reporting that the whole colony was scrapped and abandoned. Cavil later mentions that the entire colony was relocated to that thing in the series finale.
The Cylons came from the 12 Colonies - remember the whole “The Cylons were created by Man” tag? What’s the term for a colony settled from a colony?
But yeah, the Cylons lived someplace. They all left, and moved to that crazy looking thing that they lived on in the finale. It was destroyed. So at best, there may be a few basestars of Cavils, Dorals and Simons flying around, but [fanwank] they’ll jump into the gravitational “safe area” around the crazy looking thing, since they don’t know it’s been destroyed, but in the absence of the CLT the safe area isn’t safe anymore, so they’ll be sucked in too.[/fanwank]
I thought they made it very clear that Cavil’s contingent had been completely destroyed. Only a few of Cavil, Doral, and Simon made it to the bridge, and those were killed in the last scuffle. Everything on the last basestar was destroyed by the nuke. The remaining Cylons were primarily the rebels, but they were rebels because they were no longer lobotomized. With Cavil and his fellows gone, the rebel Cylons would have freed their cousins.
I also thought they made it very clear that the remaining Cylons were taking their very last basestar to find a new home, where they could live and grow without humanity’s interference. I thought Ellen announced that.
And the discovery of Hera’s remains were likened to Lucy, in anthropological importance, as she was the mitochondrial Eve - the genetic mother of all current day humanity. This means that we are the offspring of humans and Cylons.
Yes, there was no reason at all for them to start over at a neolithic standard. (Not that they did as evidenced by Baltar’s, “I know something about farming comment.”, Baltar’s knowledge of farming of course constitutes super-advanced technology. So I don’t see why having factory equipment from the ships is a bad thing. I don’t see why they couldn’t use the ships to build a city, skip that whole nasty feudal/industrial era thing.
And most of all.
How exactly did they transmit the ethical knowledge over 10,000 years to ensure that humans never created a robot slave race?
Oh yeah, based on what we saw in the very end, they didn’t, they failed, it all happened over again.
But then again the existance of the Angel Starbuck shows that God just wants them to repeat the same mistakes over and over again for all of eternity. Though why God has such a shitty fantasy is beyond me.
So basically it’s 10,000 years of suck through the ages of poor sanitation, destructive wars, dying of easily curable diseases, so that when you finally see the light of the end of the tunnel? Guess what, it’s not actually that light, it’s thousands of nuclear warheads going off because your robot servants decided that your species needed to be eradicated.
Yeah, wonderful.
The final episode of the show was like a whiz bang orgasm meant to leave you breathless so that you don’t notice that the whore stole your wallet and quietly let herself out.
Interesting how people can have so completely different views about the same things. The ending is clearly a somewhat ironic message to the audience. The epilogue. “Carefull now, it just might happen”. Wink wink, nudge nudge.
I feel like the abandonment of technology is akin to Frodo sailing West with the elves. The people are tired and finished with the world they knew, so they leave it behind. It’s less about a truly reasoned, logical analysis of what might be best for mankind, and more of a transition from an age and a story that has run its course to a new beginning for a new people.
(and feel really dumb for missing this)