Whenever we listen toHey Jude, my mom always wonders why anyone would name a child “Jude” after the apostle “Judas”. But wasn’t there a saint Jude?
Also, were any of the Bealtes Catholic? A lot of their songs seem to reference saints and the Lady Madonna. Does the Anglican church (or Church of England? Are those the same?) uphold saints and Mary as Catholics do?
St. Jude is the patron saint of lost causes. He was an apostle, brother of James the Less and a realtive of Jesus Himself. He does have the distinction of having his letter be the penultimate book in the KJV.
According to Paul McCartney, the song “Hey Jude” was originally “Hey Jules”, specifically written to and for Julian Lennon (son of John Lennon by his first wife, Cynthia Twist). After tooling around with it for a bit, he changed the name from “Jules” to “Jude” because “it had a more country-western flavor.”
JMCJ
“John C., it looks like you have blended in very nicely.”
-UncleBeer
IIRC, Hey Jude was originally written as Hey Jule and was addressed to John Lennon’s son Julian. Paul McCartney at some point decided to give the title character a one letter name change. Maybe McCartney thought it would make the title more obscure.
As for the Anglican Church, I’m no expert, but I do know that they include saints as part of their beliefs. The main doctrinal difference between the Anglican Church and the Roman Catholic Church is recognizing the authority of the Pope. In terms of common practices however the two churches are fairly similar.
There were two Judases among the 12 apostles. The good one usually has his name spelled as Jude or as Thaddeus. The bad one is always Judas or Judas Iscariot.
There were also two Simons (Simon Peter and Simon the Zealot) and two James (the Greater and the Lesser). James the Greater in Spanish speaking countries is called Santiago.
According to legend, St. Jude is happy to try and help those who call upon him in dire need, because he is so lonely (most people confusing him with Judas Iscariot as they do - kind of an “island of misfit toys” sort of thing).
I believe this all was once addressed in a SD column.
The Anglican church is a collection of churches throughout the world, usually organised on national lines, such as the Episopalian Church in the U.S., the Anglican church in Canada, and so on. The Church of England is the English branch of the Anglican church, and is the “mother church” - the other churches of the Anglican communion are all derived from the C. of E.
Practices regarding saints and the BVM vary greatly within the Anglican church. For the most part, saints are considered models of the Christian life, but are not venerated as in the Roman Church - for example, Anglicans generally will not pray to a saint. However, there are High Anglicans who are more receptive to such practices. I knew one Anglican priest who occasionally said the Rosary, but I think he was very much an exception.
I believe Paul’s mother, Mary, was Catholic, but I’ll have to check on that.
I’m a little less certain of the following, but I think they all had varying degrees of Irish blood. Certainly Liverpool, a port town on the Irish Sea, had a large immigrant Irish population, so the boys would have been exposed to Catholics.
George, of course, went on to pen the immortal couplet:
“The Pope owns 51% of General Motors;
the Stock Exchange is the only thing he’s qualified to quote us”
This from the dude who wrote “Taxman.”
And what is it with loonies attacking the Beatles, anyway?
Jude is also the penultimate book of the New Testament. According to the introduction to it in the Ryrie Study Bible, “Jude identifies himself as the brother of James (v. 1), the leader of the Jerusalem church (Acts 15), and the half brother of the Lord Jesus. Jude is listed among Christ’s half brothers in Matthew 13:55 and Mark 6:3.”
There is, however, no scriptural reference to him associating with the Beatles or George Martin, although many scholars and theologians maintain he teamed up with Pete Best and became very popular in Munich Night Clubs ca. 1964-67.
Hope this clears that up.
The Dave-Guy
“since my daughter’s only half-Jewish, can she go in up to her knees?” J.H. Marx
I was baptized Methodist and never really gave much thought to where my church came from until about a year ago. The church that I then attended offered a four-hour class held over four weeks entitled, “The History of the Methodist Church” Enlightening, it was.
I used to think that Methodism came out of Lutheranism somehow. That we were an offshoot of the moral and brave Martin Luther’s movement…
Wrong.
We’re an offshoot of Anglicanism. Henry the 8th wanted a divorce so he could be with his sweetie and the Pope wouldn’t let him. So he said, “Fine. Then we’re now the Church of England. I’m the head and I can do whatever I want.”
The original Methodists (John Wesley et al) were against some of the same things that Martin Luther was against. We don’t have confession, we have open communion, no kneeling, etc.
And as for Lady Madonna, I’ve never bought into the interpretation that the song was about a prostitute. Rather, it sounds to me like a description of the harried life of a working mother. (I actually wrote a short paper on that for poetry class, more years ago than I’m willing to admit. I don’t recall all my supporting arguments, but that was the gist of it.) So I suppose Paul could have been inspored, at least in part, by memories of his mother.
The “Mother Mary” in Let It Be was originally “Mother Malcolm,” inspired by a meditation-induced hallucination of their roadie (God, what was his name…) Paul changed it to “Mary” because “Mother Malcolm” just sounded too weird.
“Witnesses said
the chained helmets,
which directly faced each
other on their platforms,
seemed increasingly angry
and agitated in the
moments leading up to the
disaster.”
Well, Beruang, Paul might have been inspored by memories of his mother. But honestly, I’m having trouble imagining Mrs. McCartney as a propogating fungal memory.
~ Complacency is far more dangerous than outrage ~
Sun – Hey fellow Beatles fan: Are you adding this tidbit for our own edification or do you believe it to be the origin of the song? I had never read this interpretation before. The Julian-Jules-Jude “version of events” has been confirmed by the author himself – as well as by Lennon.
P.S.: Did Santa bring you the Yellow Submarine CD?
