Beck's in the Pit. Oh, my! (Virtual bad, bad, bad protest!)

[CarnalK]

@octopus

If only the mean girls extended the same courtesy.

Do you mean specific people? There will always be some people who don’t extend all the proper courtesies. Is that a meaningful point to discuss?

[saucywench]

@saucywench

…there came a day or days, when all your threads were half of the view page in MPS…

@BigT

But you can. This is the Pit. Criticizing is what we do here. Just because the comment is appropriate to the forum doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to the thread. I’ve seen that happen many times.

There are a lot of people bringing up a separate grievance that has nothing to do with Beck’s pit thread. And, frankly, that grievance is asinine. Beck is perfectly nice, and her morals are good. There is thus no reason to get angry at her.

The only reason to be annoyed by her MPSIMS threads is that you clicked on them. They don’t normally take up “half the forum” and are well labeled so you can skip them. Ever since someone complained that the titles weren’t descriptive enough, she’s made sure to be more descriptive. And she obviously is not trying to post as much as possible–she could do a hell of a lot more if that were the case.

The legitimate criticism I see in this thread is that, due to her style, her Pit thread comes off as belittling the actual protests. I can see why that would bother people. I don’t think that was her intent–it’s just who she is–but I get why that would bug people.

But hating on her for her MPSIMS threads is silly. It’s not like there’s anything bad in them.

They’re as easy to avoid as the more pointless Thread Games threads.

Do you ever get anything right? Look up! I didn’t say “half the forum.” You put it in quotes even. What I said was, “…half of the view page in MPS.” Yes, sometimes when I opened MPS, less the seven or eight stickies, the Beck threads were half or more of the visible thread titles. Not half the forum! Geez

[MrDibble]

@CarnalK

Do you mean specific people?

Naah, he’s just being a tryhard troll.

Stop trying to make BoardWar happen, 'putz. It’s not going to happen.

Regards,
MrDibble

[MrDibble]

@saucywench

Yes, sometimes when I opened MPS, less the seven or eight stickies

Jeez, I don’t think **Beck **is the only problem, there. Why do you guys need 7 stickies taking up valuable forum space? Hell, CS has 4 and that’s 3 too many, IMO.

Also, maybe don’t keep it to 1 day in the view filter…

[chela]

@Beckdawrek

When Cecil Adams (you know the perfect master?) comes out of his dotage to back me up, y’all will see.

Come-on Cecil, no need to social distance on a message board.
(If you are anywhere near Chicago, stay safe. I do worry so.)
beck, protesting in her own small way.
(ETA, thx wolfpup)

That’s like the 49th time you invoked the name of Cecil Adams in your time here, what’s with this fantastical obsession of yours where you try to conjure him up to appear like a genie out of a bottle at your command. Stop fawning over the master!

[chela]

@Eonwe

I know the internet is new, so here’s a helpful description of what the kids are calling a “blog”

Sorry, but a small group of people with inside jokes and affected communication style to clearly mark insiders and outsiders, who center around and focuses on a single charismatic leader does not make this board “a community”, it defines a small community within the board. Don’t confuse your own comfort and personal in-crowd with the larger population of the SDMB.

It’s very white of you all to take a cutesy romp into the pit wrt to current events, and then get offended because some people don’t find it funny. Ok, Karen.

Yep I needed to read this again, it is a cutesy romp without merit and this thread is in poor taste.

[CarnalK]

Hey, it’s not cutesy! Beck is clearly mad, mad, mad about that sad, sad, sad murder of a man in police custody!

[DummyGladHands]

And the thread is stupid, stupid, stupid.

[saucywench]

Let’s see what the goats have to say about it.

Goat Sounds & Goat Pictures ~ The Sound A Goat Makes ~ Animal Sounds

If you don’t speak goat, here’s what they’re saying…
It’s BAAAAAD!

[Ukulele_Ike]

@Colibri

If you don’t want people to give you shit, then stick to one of the fuzzy kitties forums.

Are you DISRESPECTING the fuzzy kittens forums…?

[Win_Place_Show]

@saucywench

Funny thing Beck, I used to read your threads. I thought they were funny stories. I love the stream-of consciousness thing. After some time, there came a day or days, when all your threads were half of the view page in MPS. I don’t care who bumped them all, you or others, but it was annoying.

If you don’t like a blog, which is exactly designed for these kinds of stories, what is wrong with one big, a day in the life of Beckdawrek thread in MPS? Your fandom, and others, who want to read your stories, can “view first unread” and keep up with ongoing saga. It will probably stay at the top of the first page. If you want to talk about something other than yourself, then start other threads.

You may be a swell gal and all, but this thread doesn’t belong in The BBQ Pit. That’s my opinion, which I’m entitled to, just like the rest of you here.

Where’s that “Like button” when we need it?

[Gatopescado]

ph

[Beckdawrek]

@chela

That’s like the 49th time you invoked the name of Cecil Adams in your time here, what’s with this fantastical obsession of yours where you try to conjure him up to appear like a genie out of a bottle at your command. Stop fawning over the master!

Umm? No, I won’t stop. It’s my prerogative.
Sorry you don’t like it.
If I didn’t like something I damn sure wouldn’t read it.

I still protest the treatment of Mr. Floyd and his death.

[QuickSilver]

Given sufficient time, almost every thread reveals its soundtrack.

Everybody’s talkin’ all this stuff about me
Why don’t they just let me live (Tell me why)
I don’t need permission
Make my own decisions (Oh)
That’s my prerogative

[Eonwe]

@Helena330

Oh, please. Anyone can post in those threads. I have once or twice, but that’s it. If I see something that interests me, I’ll do it again. Or not. That you choose to feel like an outsider is just that: your choice. Then you make the choice to be pissed off about some imagined slight. Grow up.

No you grow up. :rolleyes:

Look, I don’t have any problem with any fun anyone wants to have here. We’re all here by choice for entertainment. My only point is that the implication that what happens at your specific table in the lunch room is somehow automatically meaningful to everyone else in the cafeteria and the building itself is incorrect and self important.

“someone who’s done more to make this board a community than anyone else” . . . some relatively regular posters have found a fun way to pass the time together. This does not mean they’ve made the board a better place. It means they’ve found something meaningful to themselves. That’s all.

I also fail to see what’s wrong with the original intent of the thread. I read and watch what’s going on with horror, probably like most people here. We have a pandemic, police killing black people, arresting reporters and brutalizing citizens, a president who supports it all, and much more. It’s some privilege right there to bitch about a thread on a message board.

You know what’s racist? Assuming that "I can’t protest, but let’s all talk about what we would do, if we ‘could’ " is just a cathartic exercise. You know, between us whites for whom none of this is particularly personal, and for whom nothing material is at stake.

It must feel good to have a safe space where black people are an extreme minority and out of sight/out of mind where we can just kind of imagine that just feeling bad about the state of the world is enough to excuse other behavior. I think/hope we can all agree that walking into a room full of black people right now saying, “hey everyone! Let’s share what our protest signs would say if we could protest, but you know, we can’t, because the effort/risk isn’t worth it to us,” would be inappropriate. Why do you think it’s appropriate here?

[Beckdawrek]

Am I wrong? The point of a message board is to post messages. To find like-minded minded individuals and compare notes. To be a community.
That’s my take on it.

Yes, I agree the ‘pit’ was probably not a good idea for this thread. We all make errors. I makes 1000s a day. I have to live with my poor decisions.

I stand by my right to protest in my own small way.

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I protest the horrible treatment of Black people by LE.

[CarnalK]

You can protest in any way you want. Here’s the thing though: you’ve rather intentionally, istm, built up a certain “brand” here. That’s fine but you should realize people are going to take your content through that filter which you made easy by using your “bad, bad, bad” trademark to discuss mass protests over someone’s fucking murder by police.

[Beckdawrek]

I do own that, CarnalK, like I said I am more than my profile on the SDMB.
I’m disgusted with the murder(s) of Black men by LE.
I protest that.

Just like Trump’s not gonna stop the protesters in the street, no one can tell me not to be outraged and protest in my own way.
Curse me, mouth me, tell me I’m wrong all you want. I reserve my right to protest.
Your rubber bullets can’t touch me.

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I protest, I protest, I protest.

[Gatopescado]

Beck Lives Matter

[saucywench]

@Beckdawrek

…I know, I know. It’s a weak pit thread.

Yes, it’s BAAAD!!!

@Beckdawrek

Saucywench
But, I ain’t leaving)

We know. You post it on a loop.

@x-ray_vision

I thought this was a pit thread? Oh, wait, you’re the one who gets away with writing whatever the fuck she wants wherever she wants and gets special privileges with thread titles.

Seriously, get a fucking blog.

Do card carrying, dues paying members get more leeway in these kids of matters?

@Helena330

…It’s interesting that the people who are dumping on Beck don’t post very much. But wow, she’s in the Pit, so let’s take this opportunity to shit on someone who’s done more to make this board a community than anyone else. I get tired of her threads sometimes, but surely I can’t be the only with this superpower:* the ability to skip them.*

Don’t listen to them, Beck. Keep doing what you’re doing.

You my dear, are a fucking blowhard. It’s not really interesting, nor is it hard to figure out. I’ve been here a pretty long time. I have a fairly low post count. Guess what…I read more than I post. So what! We are all entitled to our own opinion. It’s a forum.
The “making the board a community” crap, is not an opinion of the majority, just you and your cronies.

@cochrane

To all the whiners: If you see a thread started by Beck, don’t fucking click on it. How fucking hard is it to scroll past it? You’re not being forced to read them. No need to threadshit, just scroll on by. Go fuck a cactus, all of you. You too, Colibri, since you’re not posting as a mod.

Beck, post anywhere you want. The complainers are all being bad, bad, bad.

@cochrane

You get a cactus!
And YOU get a cactus!

@cochrane

And YOU get a cactus!

You can take all your cacti and shove them up your ass sideways!!!

@kenobi_65

If I’m your only hope, we’re all fooked.

I’m going to change my shirt saying. Remember, I’m the one who will be wearing a shirt, not carrying a sign, because I want my hands free. My shirt will say…

“We’re all fooked” - Obi-Wan Kenobi

@Beckdawrek

I don’t think it’s right that people who are ‘nice’ or considered ‘silly’ (I do know what people think about me) cannot be outraged with the same intensity as other folks.

I’m not one dimensional. I can feel enraged about these horrible events. I’m very afraid for our urban communities and the people who live there.

If we can’t get a handle on this more people are gonna be dying. It’s a true tragedy for America.

As far as I can tell, no one expressed that nice or silly people can’t be outraged by horrible events. It’s the silliness of the OP, the Q & A, the not stating who, or what, you are pitting (until later, kind of), etc., all in a forum in which it does not belong.

@Beckdawrek

When Cecil Adams (you know the perfect master?) comes out of his dotage to back me up, y’all will see.

Come-on Cecil, no need to social distance on a message board.
(If you are anywhere near Chicago, stay safe. I do worry so.)
beck, protesting in her own small way.
(ETA, thx wolfpup)

This repeated beckoning, summoning Cecil shit is bizarro too.

@Beckdawrek

Saucy, I have no grief with you, really. I don’t dislike anyone at all. You’re probably right. I misinterpreted what I thought a ‘pit’ thread should be. I own that.
I never thought any of those things you listed, that people said to you. What other people called you or made comments about your gender or Doper name, I cannot own.
As I said in a post after your first comment, I regretted, almost immediately, making this thread. I do learn. And I retain what I learn. You can bet it will be a cold day in hell before I make another pit thread.

Dork, “Yep, dude your poster would be a little wordy!” she said in her best ‘pit’ voice. Grr.

No one is saying don’t post, or don’t make Pit threads, or that they hate you. I can’t believe people are this dense, so there must be a lot of word twisting going on. Virtual protest, because you are home-bound…MPS. If you want to play in the Pit, how about, pitting LE for their treatment of African-Americans?

I know you didn’t say those things to me, but birds of a feather tower together. Why should you get your hands dirty when your minions can take care of the dirty work.

What were you expecting, hoping for, when you started this kind of thread here? Why don’t you answer instead of your spokespersons. Tell Helena to just shut up and hold your pom poms.

@Beckdawrek

Oh, yeah, Saucy, I don’t pull out my lack of health for sympathy.
I say it here as a way to explain one reason why I could never really march and protest.

I wish I could.

A blog, or a virtual protest in MPS would have been perfect. You could even explain in your OP that you are house bound.

@Helena330

Oh, please. Anyone can post in those threads. I have once or twice, but that’s it. If I see something that interests me, I’ll do it again. Or not. That you choose to feel like an outsider is just that: your choice. Then you make the choice to be pissed off about some imagined slight. Grow up.

I also fail to see what’s wrong with the original intent of the thread. I read and watch what’s going on with horror, probably like most people here. We have a pandemic, police killing black people, arresting reporters and brutalizing citizens, a president who supports it all, and much more. It’s some privilege right there to bitch about a thread on a message board.

It’s the freakin’ pit! Who or what was pitted in the OP?

@digs

Beck, I think the issue here is that your threads belong in MPSIMS. They’re about your feelings, and I click on them when I want to see what you’re doing today, and what funny thing happened to you today, and how you’re feeling today… perfectly mundane and pointless stuff you need to share.

But in other forums, people expect a higher content to words ratio.

Most of the posts in this thread are yours, and most of them are about how you’re feeling… about racism, about the forums, about how people are treating you. You need to add something to people’s understanding of the issues, not just emote.

By the way, I love the idea of one big* Beck’s Diary* thread in MPSIMS. I’d read it, and even your original post in this thread could go in there: “THIS is what I’m dealing with today, it’s bad bad bad and I’m pissed!”

Amen!

@Beckdawrek

Umm? No, I won’t stop. It’s my prerogative.

But surely, you too must follow the rules. No?

I know it’s your prerogative.

Loop loop dee-loops loop dee-loop
Loop dee-loop dee-loop

@Eonwe

No you grow up. :rolleyes:

Look, I don’t have any problem with any fun anyone wants to have here. We’re all here by choice for entertainment. My only point is that the implication that what happens at your specific table in the lunch room is somehow automatically meaningful to everyone else in the cafeteria and the building itself is incorrect and self important.

“someone who’s done more to make this board a community than anyone else” . . . some relatively regular posters have found a fun way to pass the time together. This does not mean they’ve made the board a better place. It means they’ve found something meaningful to themselves. That’s all.

You know what’s racist? Assuming that "I can’t protest, but let’s all talk about what we would do, if we ‘could’ " is just a cathartic exercise. You know, between us whites for whom none of this is particularly personal, and for whom nothing material is at stake.

It must feel good to have a safe space where black people are an extreme minority and out of sight/out of mind where we can just kind of imagine that just feeling bad about the state of the world is enough to excuse other behavior. I think/hope we can all agree that walking into a room full of black people right now saying, “hey everyone! Let’s share what our protest signs would say if we could protest, but you know, we can’t, because the effort/risk isn’t worth it to us,” would be inappropriate. Why do you think it’s appropriate here?

Great post! We would all like an answer to the last question.