Well, right, in your sink you’d probably have to do that. No chits in their sink though.
Why don’t you have a plunger?
Especially after the first time, I would have thought that would be a mandatory purchase.
Edited to add: Do you have a plunger now?
I don’t think so either. Look at his post history. It would be a very long and consistent troll.
Even on MB’s where trolls are common, they aren’t like this.
Excellent, but probably discarded, advice.
Let’s face facts, John Clay. You may be high functioning but you are in no way capable of raising a child. Neither is your wife. Your plans to have a baby and let everyone around to raise it for you are the sort of plans a teenager would make.
You only have a baby if you are prepared to care for it yourselves. No one else is obligated to look after that child and you have no business deciding for your in laws that they will spend their golden years raising your child so you don’t have to take responsibility for it. If the government scraps your two days a week daycare, if your in laws suffer a sudden, catastrophic health crisis, if your brother and his wife decide to move to the other end of the country, if you have no choice but to care for your own child 24/7… CAN YOU AND YOUR WIFE MANAGE TO RAISE THAT CHILD ALONE? If the answer is no, then you shouldn’t have children.
It’s one thing to know you have people and services that can help you out in a time of need, it’s quite another to plan to palm your kid off on everyone else constantly. That’s the very definition of bad parenting. You are already failing as parents and your child hasn’t even been conceived yet (fingers crossed).
Don’t do this. For the sake of the child, and for the sake of society which will carry the burden of your probably-abused, probably-neglected, probably-mentally ill child for decades, don’t do this. You have an attitude that is completely incompatible with being a good parent. If your wife was mentally stable, maybe she could carry you, but she’s got problems of her own and there’s no way she can do it alone.
Kids don’t usually scream for hours on end over many months… sometimes they’re quiet! Particularly if you have good parenting skills. If I can’t listen to audiobooks I’d browse the Internet on my iPad. I’d look up at the kid every now and them (similar to how I sometimes browse the Internet on the bus while checking where in the bus route I am). I’d be paying at least the same attention to the kid as a mother who is doing chores. BTW some people even listen to audiobooks while driving and that requires constant attention (I mean you can look away from a kid for 30 seconds if you’re doing some chores)
Really? That implies that it is impossible to be a good father and also have a job.
“All the time?” You are so black and white! Anyway I’ve got an iPad… I use it when watching TV, etc.
What if household chores need doing? That would involve not paying full attention to the baby. BTW 100% means no toilet breaks, etc… maybe you mean 99% or 95%…
That particular toilet has been blocked ONCE not “always”. Also my sister said a plumber would probably be $100 just for the call out. I guess someone who’s not a fully qualified plumber might be “like five bucks”.
Was it…Bono?? :eek:
Because I don’t need one. If I needed one I wouldn’t have found my solution so quick and easy.
I managed fine without one. BTW even if I did have a plunger, how would I get the turd out of the toilet? With tongs?
No.
BTW my toilets haven’t been blocked twice… I said I pulled the turds out twice. The first time I couldn’t flush it down… it wasn’t blocked.
“in no way capable”? I can learn and practice. I used to be absolutely clueless about girls but now I’m in a happy marriage.
She’s had a lot of experience with babies and kids.
My wife has never suggested this. My point is that if I’m not sufficiently good as a parent, there could be back-ups…
Ok.
Yes we can… and we can afford day care as well. BTW we can almost literally care for my child 24/7… me and my wife get very significant government payments and don’t need to have a job. I work at the moment but would still be comfortably well off financially if I was unemployed. Also there are cheap babysitters out there. BTW the brother and his wife to be struggle financially and couldn’t afford a place of their own while keeping their current standard of living. We plan on being together for a long time… the brother has lived with my wife for many years.
Yes we could raise that kid completely alone, but it is unlikely it would come to that.
Well my wife needs a break for a few hours a week. And like I said it is me that said that there is a lot of help out there… even more help than what I’ve mentioned.
My wife is mostly mentally stable… she just has anxiety sometimes - about restaurants. And she has 6 siblings that can help - except for her brother they all are experienced at raising kids, even though most of her siblings also have schizophrenia or other mental illnesses. In her family there are 3 social workers… they could help make sure we’re on the right path. BTW it is ONE kid…
“A parent needs to be there 100%”?
What if they have a job? Are they still a “parent”?
Can I share my morning with you…whilst I am not any longer a mummy to little kids, last night (as Nana) I stood in loco parentis to my two little grandsons so my daughter could go out for a Saturday night on the town. First time in over three years.
Around 5.00am, the littlest fella (10 months) woke up grizzly, so I gave him a bottle which he sort of drank and sort of didn’t, then started crying loudly. I finally pacified him to sort of sleep and sort of not sleep, then realised I was going to throw up. Sitting on the crapper, bucket in front to catch the stuff erupting via mouth, I sort of felt OK again.
Then the stomach cramps started in earnest, at the same time as Littlest Fella woke up screaming. Picking him up, I noticed his breathing was extremely laboured…turned on the lights, and it was obvious he was a very sick little boy.
Cut a long story short, he needed to get to hospital STAT, and I felt like dying. What ya gonna do?
That’s what parents do. No matter how you feel, no matter what else should be taking priority, no matter whether you’ve had any sleep, you make that child the most important thing in the universe.
(He was admitted straightaway, on oxygen and gastric tubes and when I finally managed to leave about an hour ago was finally sleeping. I spent the morning running to the dunny to hurl in between trying to pacify the Littlest Fella and fill the staff in on his med history. He’ll be fine…I STILL feel like dying 
)
Initially we liked Nicole/Nikki and Nathaniel but now we like Amy and Jay.
Actually yes, it is 100% of the time. Toilet breaks? For the first several months she was alive I had a bouncy chair for the baby in the bathroom and she was brought in there with me when I peed, showered, shaved my legs, or did anything else that needed to be done with her in my line of sight. Now at almost 16 months she can be left in a high chair with a sippy cup and an episode of Dinosaur Train for a few minutes if I need to use the bathroom but I still don’t shower alone. She and I generally shower together so we both get clean and she isn’t left unsupervised. As far as household chores go she has a baby rocking chair that she gets strapped into with a toy and we sing songs together the entire time I wash dishes, clean counters, sweep the kitchen, etc. Anything that she can “help” with is great because then we each have a scrub brush or towel and she “cleans” with mommy.
My husband works full time and I am a stay at home mom but on days that I have been really sick if we can’t find a family member to come help out with the baby then my husband calls in sick and stays home and takes care of our daughter. If I call him and tell him he needs to leave work early or set up a pack and play in his office so she can hang out with him for an hour while I go to the doctor or something he does it, no question.
Sometimes we do get a few moments to do things. Right now, for instance, my daughter is in bed for the night so I am posting on the dope. When she naps I catch up on email and facebook and stuff. My mother in law takes her one night a week so my husband and I can catch a movie or something for a couple of hours. But there is never a time when she is awake that at least one of us isn’t caring for her in at least some capacity. That means that sometimes dishes don’t get done, laundry has to wait, catching up on a favorite show or what people are doing on facebook doesn’t get done until after she has gone to bed. Today was a special one as my daughter was really sick and spent most of the day vomiting on herself, which meant that we spent the day also covered in baby vomit because we were holding her, cleaning her up, consoling her, giving her pedialite, etc. I gave up a $50,000/year job for this and I haven’t regretted it for a bit. There is no pause button for parenting and there is no going back if you have a baby and then decide it isn’t for you. If you can’t be there 100% of the time then you need to not have a baby.
It’s five bucks for a plunger. Hell, it looks like they have even cheaper ones.
And yes, some kids DO scream constantly, or nearly. I did.
No one’s saying you have to weld the kid to your side. But it has to be your #1 priority.
I can’t be bothered buying one. And I try to minimize my possessions. And you haven’t answered about how a plunger helps pick up a turd out of a toilet… I think you’d need tongs or something for that.
If they’re still screaming constantly no matter what you do, then what difference does it make if I were to just sit near them browsing the Internet on my iPad?
What about men who miss their kid’s football game because they’ve got work? It depends on how important the events are…
You obviously have no idea how drains work.
The above statement shows to me just how unfit you are to being a parent.
Because there’s a huge difference between missing a kid’s game because you’re working and because you’d rather dick around on your iPad.
Ok if I need one I’ll buy one, but I don’t think I’ll ever need one.
You didn’t explain yourself… if I kid is screaming whether you’re holding them or whether they’re strapped into a chair, what difference does it make? What are parents meant to do in that situation? Are they meant to have 100.0% focus on the kid for hours on end? What if they were in day care… almost no kid would get 100% attention from the workers for hours on end… are they unfit to look after kids?
I can still go to the game if I have an iPad!!! BTW at the moment I’m on a 3 day holiday with my wife yet I’ve managed to spend hours on this site… she hasn’t really worried about it…
Infants DO need need hourly attention, not to be “strapped into a chair”. They need human contact. With mom AND dad.
I was refuting your argument that babies “don’t scream hourly”. Sometimes they do. If they’re sick, or hurt, or hungry. Babies who are teething or sick can’t say, “Mommy, I’m hurt!” Crying is their only way to express that pain. They don’t know any better. They need to be held and soothed.
After she outgrew the crib, it took my sister a year to be able to go to bed and just fall asleep like everyone else does. My mom had to rock her to sleep. Every single night.
You really think your kid is going to like it if Dad spends the entire time with his iPad? I don’t care if you can “multi-task”, there are sometimes when you shouldn’t. If you go to see your kid participate in an activity (sports, concerts, plays, whatever), you need to keep 100% foccused on your kid. Not your iPad. If you get that bored around your kid that you always need a fucking iPad, then why do you want one? (I know I’d have cried if my dad had spent my clarinet recitals reading the newspaper. Even if he could “hear” the music, he was there to see me perform.)
You may not be able to be THERE all the time. But your kid has to be your first priority. Not your goddamned iPad.
Useful information for future monster turds: dump a bucket of water in the toilet. Repeat until it dislodges. No need to touch it with your bare hands.
Your posts started to sink in today and just then I had a big talk with my wife. She eventually said that maybe we’ll talk about having a baby in about 2 years… or that maybe God doesn’t want us to have kids. My main point to her is that she only feels able to work 16-18 hrs/week and yet thinks she’s able to raise a kid. BTW I said to her that I’m not sure she’d want to talk about it since earlier she was trying to end my negative situations. I said we’d have a lot more freedom without a kid and also her brother and wife-to-be whom we live with would probably have 2 kids where she could help raise them anyway… see I have a great wife… 
Me browsing the Internet with an iPad doesn’t prevent “hourly attention”!
You originally said they “scream constantly”! Sorry I didn’t mind-read that you actually meant “hourly”.
Using an iPad doesn’t necessarily mean “the entire time” - like if I took it to a sport’s game… you are so all-or-nothing!
My iPad is just to fill in the boring bits. It doesn’t mean it is my first priority…