Bengals receiver Chris Henry fatally injured

Great. Even if you think people aren’t going to get involved, he can’t get into the truck. If he could get into the truck, he already would have. Pull over into a well-populated area, lock the doors, and wait for the cops to get there. I hope she gets charged with vehicular manslaughter. She’s as much responsible for his death as he is.

Unless he was nekid he could have gotten into that truck. Shoes are effective for getting through car windows, particularly if ya do leg presses for a long time each day. Not to mention these hard little pieces of matter in some areas called rocks. If he was* trying to kill her, then shaking his ass out of the truck was the right thing to do, unless there is a cop car in sight.

If this is your advice to women being chased by crazy NFL football players don’t expect anyone to follow it. Had she given him a chance he was more than capable of breaking out the window. Not so easy in a moving truck. His death was the result of his behavior, not hers. She was trying to get away from him.

If his shoes were enough, why wasn’t he lying in the bed of the truck kicking out the window? It’s because he WASN’T TRYING TO GET INTO THE TRUCK.

No reports claim that he was threatening to beat her ass, or anything like that. Everything I’ve read said he was trying to get her to pull the damned truck over. And if she did, he’d still be alive.

When you’re screaming and beating on a truck like a crazy person it’s implied you’ve lost it. The road he was on when he died was not recovery.

and maybe she wouldn’t.

The only, and I mean ONLY reason I keep getting involved in this trainwreck is because of your statements, which are assumptions.

You cannot continue to possibly predict or judge Henry’s actions beyond “it was very stupid to jump into a moving pickup truck’s bed during a heated and emotional argument with your significant other that is driving”.

Stop it already. Nobody is trying to grant this guy anything other than his proper due. No matter whom the NFL player du jour was that died, their team would put stickers with his number on their helmets, have a few moments of silence before a few games, and then poof his memory is gone.

I for one am not vying for sainthood for the guy, just trying to squash assumptions based on perceptions.

I’ve assumed nothing beyond the obvious. She was trying to get away from him. His behavior was aggressive and viewed as erratic by witnesses. He is a large, muscular athlete with a history of violent behavior. There is every reason to believe his behavior was frightening. He’s the poster child of scary stupid.

I side with the NFL league regarding the request to wear his jersey.

He is/was NOT large ( he was skinny as hell and tall as hell) nor does he have a “history” of violent behavior outside of ONE incident.

Are any prisoners in our penal system worthy of rehabilitation in your opinion?

You do realise that he was arrested AT LEAST 5 times since 2005, and never served any real amount of time for his numerous crimes?

If it were you or I arrested that often in such a short time period (for the same crimes he was convicted of) you can bet the judge would have thrown our arses in jail to get a point across.

Chris Henry got too damn many second chances all because he was a wealthy athelete. If his most recent judge would have thrown him in jail WHERE HE BELONGED he would still be alive today…

He is 6’ 4" of muscle and yes, he had a criminal record of one incident.

What does rehabilitation have to do with this? He did something incredibly stupid (and dangerous) and he died from it. It’s tragic. People don’t deserve to die from their own stupidity but they do.

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Why don’t you and the other dude just come out and say he deserved to die.

:dubious: Nobody’s saying that.

Clearly it’s a tragedy. Given that he was responsible for his truck surfing stunt and it was directed at his future wife it was a stupid tragedy. It would be great to see him 5 years from now wearing a self-forged halo but shit happens.

I’ll say it again, I side with the league on the jersey swap.

I agree with the league’s decision on the jersey swap but I also agree with Ochocinco’s pending decision to accept the fine and wear it anyway.

You do realize that two of the five arrests had the charges dropped because they were bullshit…right? Like the Steeler fan that claimed Henry hit him…bogus.

Or that another of them was for failing to use his turn signal and driving without proof of insurance…right?

How about one of the other arrests…he had a bag of weed in his sock. Hang him!

Yet another one of his arrests was due to one of his friends using a hotel that was rented under Chris Henry’s name and used one of Chris Henry’s credit cards to buy alcohol for a minor…Henry wasn’t even there. But you knew that too, right?

And I’d also like to explode this “rich athlete” meme, too. Henry was a 3rd round pick, and he was making in the neighborhood of $500,000 a year under his original contract. Factor in him supporting almost twenty friends and family members that he took in after Katrina, his legal fees, the NFL suspensions that cost him a ton of his paychecks, his agent’s cut…so no, he wasn’t rich. He was certainly well to do, but we’re not talking about millions and millions of dollars here. And when the Bengals chose to bring him back, they were paying him the minimum salary that they could…about $400,000 per year.

Pffft, a real Steelers fan would never accuse a Bengals Wide Receiver of hitting anything! :wink:

Dude, you have to stop trying to defend this guy. It’s not a winning effort. Telling us that someone who is making upwards of $400,000 a year is not rich is a losing effort right there. If he chooses to use that richness to support others of his family, that’s fine, but as a teacher making a meager $40,000 a year, making 10 times that amount I would be quite rich.

We do not yet know why he was in the truck. But so far, there is no evidence to support an assumption he was there for a good reason (e.g.: trying to save his fiancee from something). There is ample circumstantial evidence that would support an assumption that he was engaging in some not so great behavior (besides just the fact he jumped into a moving truck). And while he was not some super-thug, he did have a history of difficulty with anger management, evidenced by more than one past problem in his life.

All that some of us are trying to say is this: the meme that this guy had turned his life around, and that this is somehow a tragic end to a feel-good story probably isn’t supported by the evidence here. I suspect a large amount of the reason some like you are getting all jacked up trying to support this meme is that you had been willing to give Henry the benefit of the doubt in this concept (turning his life around), and are upset to find out that maybe you had been misled. So while we should reserve judgment until more facts are in, you should be willing to admit that the evidence to this point is not supportive of the concept that Henry was somehow “innocent” in this encounter.

LOL, yeah.
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Good post, and I’m not sure why I’m expending so much effort on this issue. I am not trying to claim that Henry was innocent, but just that we don’t know the truth and maybe never will.

The other reason I’m “defending” him is to try to show that while the media goes on and on about someone like him and “5 Arrests In 18 Months!”, if you dig a little deeper, some of these charges were petty or overblown, and Henry lost a lot of money and playing time over his misdemeanors. But that’s not going to stop the media circus, eh?