The only thing I am or have ever suggested is that places or groups wishing to NOT be a target should have better security. Pretty simple. The police stations and gun ranges are obviously well covered. Can’t remember the last time a cop station was shot up, if ever.
No, they don’t. Absolutely not.
Teachers quite certainly con’t carry guns in school in Israel; that’s illegal. Gun ownership in general is rare in Israel, and legally difficult. The percentage of israelis who own guns is much lower than in, say, Canada.
What preposterous nonsense.
Every school shooter there has ever been chose a school to which they had a connection; they were a student (Columbine, Virginia Tech), held a grievance with the school (Ecole Polytechnique) or it was simply the nearest school they could get to and they had a thing with schools in general (Sandy Hook). No school shooter ever has chosen a school because it advertised itself as a gun free zone. It has never happened.
Had a few teachers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas been carrying, Nikolas Cruz would still have gone there and he almost certainly would still have shot 17 people to death. Hell, maybe he’d have shot one more when some hopelessly outgunned teacher had come at him, who knows? What’s for sure is he’d have been there shooting.
And I believe you may have me confused with another poster. 
Nope, that’s not right, either.
Seriously, if you guys can’t be bothered to fact check the basic premises behind your notions, how do ypu expect to convince anyone with the faintest attitude of skepticism?
Stranger
That would be a quite a dreadful waste of advertising dollars, disseminating common knowledge.
Too bad we already kew the the outcome - thanks for the reminder. Can you prognosticate a different one under different circumstances? Because it doesn’t take much to change the course events in small OR big ways sometimes. We don’t have any really glaring different circumstances on any of the mass shootings, apart from the major categories already mentioned. It will obviously never be stopped anywhere entirely. So wadda ya gonna do? 
Arm teachers - involuntarily? Immensely stupid, expensive, wrong, etc…
Ban ((your weapon(s) of choice)) entirely, or even significantly? Impossible. Literally. Horse left barn, etc. etc.
Mitigate? There’s ALOT of room for improvement in there somewhere.
Remind me again - how many schoolchildren at the range and cop station events? Mr. Siko anywhere and everywhere has my permanent invitation to begin their assaults on these places at their earliest opportunity. Please. Do it Now. :smack:
Before a school starts looking more convenient.
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Are you the only one who doesn’t know that schools in the U.S. are gun-free zones? Have you checked any state laws in the U.S.? You, a non-law enforcement type, can’t bring a gun into a school.
What does this have to do with the fact that no school shooter has chosen a target because it was a gun free zone? How many times does this fact have to be pointed out?
Do you actually need me to provide a list of school shootings with evidence that EVERY ONE was chosen because of a connection to the shooter, and not a single one was chosen because it advertised itself as a gun free zone?
And here is the problem in a nutshell.
Because it’s possible to construct scenarios where absurd measures would work, (Hollywood does it all the time!) people stop thinking and just get lost of the romance of those particular exact scenarios.
This is the same impulse that drives preppers, militiamen, and other people who endlessly prepare for extraordinary, but fun to think about, scenarios, without ever considering many, much-more-likely-to-manifest downsides of their actions.
I’d prefer a cleigh mhor, but it’s not much of a distance weapon. :rolleyes:
How about if I remind you about your own words you appear to have so conveniently forgotten from [POST=20813618]here[/POST] just ten posts above:
A statement that is not even a little bit true. You’re either arguing disingenuously or just really not very good at all at logic and reason in the same way that ice is not just a little bit frozen.
Stranger
This article indicates otherwise.
(Bolding mine.)
“This article” is from Arutz Sheva which is basically the Fox News of Israel. It has little credibility in Israel and even less outside of it except with hypernationalist Zionists. Hey, let’s take a look at what a respected newspaper with a transparent and rigorously enforced editorial policy has to say on the matter:
*But the schools have escaped American-style violence in large part because of measures to confront Israel’s unique security challenge — and not because of efforts to deter troubled youths and lone madmen.
“The guards are there for other reasons, mainly terrorism,” said Amos Shavit, spokesman for the Ministry of Education. He said the guards stationed at schools are under the authority of the police. In large cities, he said, the police and the local authority carry out security patrols around the educational institutions throughout the school day.
There are no metal detectors or special door locks on classrooms. And, by policy, teachers are not armed.
“Professionals deal with the security,” Shavit said. “Not the teachers.”
Israeli security experts also say that gun violence is rare in Israel because privately held guns are so rare. According to data from Israel’s Ministry of Internal Security, which registers all gun owners, about 260,000 Israelis, or about 3.5 percent of the population, have permits to carry firearms. Half of the permit holders are private citizens, and the others work for security firms.*
Or another:
*Palestinian gunmen carried out deadly terrorist attacks on a school in Maalot, near the border with Lebanon, in 1974 and at a rabbinical seminary in 2008. But both attacks were in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Licensed commercial security firms guard schools; contrary to some perceptions, armed civilians have not been deployed as school guards on a large scale since the 1970s.
At times, civilians have used guns to stop attacks. Last year, a tour guide was among those who opened fire at a Palestinian driver who plowed his truck into a group of soldiers in Jerusalem. But on other occasions, a civilian response has caused harm, as when a civilian guard shot an Eritrean asylum-seeker during a Palestinian attack at the Beersheba bus station in 2015, mistaking him for one of the assailants. And occasionally, Mr. Rosenfeld said, security guards had used their work-issued weapons to commit deadly acts of domestic violence, prompting new limits on taking weapons home.
Amid the upsurge in Palestinian stabbings, shootings and car rammings that began in the fall of 2015, the Ministry of Public Security eased the criteria for obtaining a gun permit, but maintained the same levels of supervision and control.*
Or how about the mainstream Israel newspaper The Jerusalem Post:
*Aside from Israel’s strict gun laws, reasons for the lack of mass shootings can be attributed to the country’s closely knit family structure, small size and intimacy and informality between strangers or the universal health care which makes mental health services available for all.
When asked why Israel doesn’t have such killings, Amit said “you can’t prevent this entirely. You can’t ensure that someone won’t someday go crazy and do something like this, but we do our best to prevent it from happening.”*
Stranger
So slaughtering native Americans, expropriating their land, putting their children in schools where they were forbidden to speak their languages, manifest destiny, the creation of national myths such as Columbus “discovering America”, referring to native Americans as savages, has nothing to do with white supremacy?
It reminds me of the people who oppose seat belts because they might jam and trap them in a burning car.
You should get a warning about posting irrelevant factoids in hijack attempts. The topic is school security, more precisely, arming teachers. Insults, in IMHO are an option for that as well, I believe.
Have fun. 
I think a caveat should be carved out re the ban on fully automatic weapons, making them legal only for teachers and only when working with their kids. I mean, imagine how different these school shootings would be if Ms. Goodfella pulled a motherfucking machine gun out on these losers. Win-win. They’d have to leave their weapons at the school at the end of the day, however. Machine guns for teachers. Bam.
Depends on the size of the children.
As a teacher friend said this week, “I can’t even keep the teacher scissors on my desk, and they want me to keep a gun!?”
How cute you are. You not only dissemble about corrections to errors in your statements but you’ve also just got your Junior Mod badge out of a box of Crackerjacks and have put on your duck boots like a big boy trooper!
Stranger