Better Call Saul: 1.09 Pimento

I disagree, the point of giving him the contract position would have been to be seen to be supportive, even if he was a good lawyer, good fit, his position in chucks eyes, was the mail room. At the end of the year, if not sooner, he would have been gone.

Declan

What was said about Tuco working for Gus Fring, it doesn’t sound feasible since Tuco was Hector Salamanca’s nephew, and the Salamancas were all cartel. Fring, IIRC, wasn’t cartel but the cartel tried to bring him to heel anyway. Jmo.

And, Tuco was a junkie for meth, and Fring hated junkies, cf. Jesse Pinkman

Fring didn’t deal “in his own back yard”. He ran the distribution for dealers elsewhere in the South West. The local (local to Fring) distribution was handled by Tuco, who was the local extension of the Cartel.

Let’s not go too far. Chuck built HHM into a multimillion dollar firm and Saul doesn’t even have anything like that in BB. Chuck’s a jerk but worse lawyer than Jimmy? I don’t think so.

Saul is still a guy in a strip mall law office with a decent advertising budget and flexible morals in BB not a high powered attorney with a crack law firm that he built himself.

Sure. But Jimmy didnt ask his brother didn’t ask for that kind of help. Jimmy quite unrealistically asked for a lawyer job there.

No, obviously Chuck is vastly more knowledgeable than Jimmy about the in and outs of law. But what Jimmy is, is very clever and very glib. He might never be as good at nuts and bolts law, but with coaching and time he probably had the making for a quality trial lawyer. I presume any big firm could probably use those kind of skills, which seem to at least some extent to be dependant on personality and native ability.

At any rate we don’t know yet, but this may just be the reason Jimmy never got a chance to build a top firm. Because he will bitterly short-circuit that career, taking shortcuts and becoming a criminal-enabling shyster. Maybe Jimmy never had it in him to succeed brilliantly like his brother ( probably not ), but in some sense Chuck may have stolen his chance to try.

My Brother passed the BAT, I’d like to being him out of the mail room.
The state of New Mexico says that he mat practice law there.

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I agree with this analysis.

I’ve heard that this is even harder than passing the BAR.

Like Jimmy says, Chuck does hold the nuclear option. What’s worse, losing a $20 million case or losing your entire firm?

I suspect that if Chuck threatened Hamilin with anything, it was the threat to make him buy out his share of the firm, something Hamlin has been resisting all season.

Right, he resisted because it could bankrupt the firm. Remember Chuck kept using the people would lose their jobs excuse for why he wouldn’t sell out. Hamlin and Hamlin can’t survive alone apparently. That’s why Jimmy wanted him to threaten just that. Not to get Chuck from HHM but to make HHM hire him. If Chuck really wanted to work with him that is.

If you’re commenting on what was actually said, I was responding to the so far unnamed and possibly non existent additional partners would have voted and how Chuck could have convinced them to sabotage Jimmy.

I don’t expect it would have been hard to convince them anyway since he was still planning to and still plans to give them the case anyway.

Indeed, mat practicing law is a bitch!
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Oh hell, the BAT too.
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When Jimmy suggested that Chuck use the nuclear option to force Howard to hire him, he already knew what was going on (or at least had a pretty good idea). He knew Chuck wasn’t going say ‘hey, that makes sense, I’ll do that’. He was just had to start backing Chuck into a corner to get him to come clean and A)confirm his suspicions and b)explain why he asked HHM not to hire him, twice.

Yes.

I would like to see how Saul hid his tracks in fleeing to manage a Cinnabon joint far away.

I get all this. I’m just saying the nuclear option can be used to make HHM do what he wants either way. On the show, Jimmy asks him to do this exactly like you described. In the reply I was saying he could have used the same option to make the unseen partners not hire Jimmy. The option cuts both ways. Since we never saw the conversation no idea if he actually had to go that far or not to keep them from hiring Jimmy ( probably not ) but clearly if Chuck really wanted, Jimmy could not get hired. He holds the Nuclear Card. There would no longer be an HHM if Chuck doesn’t want there to be.

We did, he used the disappearer (Robert Forester).

I suppose. But I can’t see Chuck going up to the partners and saying “I swear to god, you guys, if you hire him why I’ll…I’ll quit”. They love Chuck and if Chuck asked them not to hire Jimmy I think they’d do that for him. Just like (as I said earlier), if Chuck asked them to hire him, they’d probably do that as well, or at least take his opinion into serious consideration when discussing whether or not to hire this new applicant.
I just don’t think Chuck had to threaten to bankrupt the entire firm just to keep them from hiring a mail room clerk that got his degree from The University Of Samoa (Go Landsharks).

He could also use the nuclear option to get the better toilet paper in the executive washroom or to get his office vacuumed every night instead of just twice a week.

Land Crabs.
Passed the BAR, if I can spell it correctly this time. :slight_smile:

Ya know, I was thinking about that yesterday. I was wondering why that clever shark from SNL would be the mascot for a college.