You know what, I entirely forget to take into account that this is supposed to be about 20 years ago and a state university’s film department would likely still have film cameras around. Even if they don’t, if they offer more than one or two photography classes, they’d almost certainly have them.
Lalo isn’t aware of any connection between Jimmy and Mike, is he?
I don’t think anything specific, but Lalo was skeptical about Jimmy’s story last time and then a hit squad was sent after him shortly after. He might be rethinking.
Kind of. He’s fairly sure Mike saved Jimmy in the desert when he went to get Lalo’s bail, but he didn’t tell Lalo that when asked. Lalo doesn’t like to be lied to, or to have pertinent information withheld. It also means Jimmy has a connection, directly or indirectly, to Gus, he’s not just Nacho’s one time lawyer.
I think he went to see the lawyers mostly to get answers and information that will lead him to take down Gus or get proof Gus isn’t loyal. But like Caspar in Germany, I doubt he intends to let them live after giving him that info. He killed Howard partly for shock value, but also because he’d seen Lalo alive and he doesn’t want any witnesses. So I suspect somebody is going to have to save them, Lalo won’t just be letting them go.
Maybe Mike kills Lalo and saves the day, maybe Kim kills him with the tequila stopper while they’re talking, or maybe Lalo doesn’t die but is chased off somehow. Either way I doubt Lalo will be saying “thanks for the info guys, see you next time” and leave peacefully. He’s out for blood.
Yeah, I agree that Lalo is suspicious of them because he knows that something went down in the desert, he finds the abandoned car with bullet holes in it. He doesn’t know exactly what went down, but he has some generalized suspicion that Mike and Gus were involved in assisting Jimmy.
One thing that has always been an open question to me, is who exactly do we think it was that tried to intercept Lalo’s bail money being delivered? Lalo has zero reason to do that as it would have kept him in jail. Gus obviously had a reason to want Lalo kept in jail, but then the fact that Mike is the one who fights off the gunmen who were after the bail money makes me question that. The series has been spread out enough now over the years I can’t remember if there’s a scene that actually clarifies this, and I’ve forgotten it, or is it still left somewhat vague.
I think the reason Lalo left them alive in the apartment the initial time he visited them there was because he wasn’t certain exactly where they stood, and while he didn’t trust them, he did trust that as attorneys they were bound to attorney client privilege and could be useful to him in some way, it probably saved their lives by the thinnest of margins.
I also don’t think he went to their apartment just to simply kill them, and if he has intentions to kill them it is probably secondary to whatever his reason is for visiting–he wants something that an attorney can help him with. I’m guessing he does plan to kill them when that is satisfied because otherwise his decision to barge in and kill Howard seems weird, if he just planned to use Jimmy to help him with some legal scheme it would’ve made a lot of sense to just wait for Howard to leave before going into the apartment.
Colombian mercenaries per the Breaking Bad Wiki. Apparently Bolsa trying to make a move to secure Fring (and the money he brings in - as Lalo says Bolsa backs Fring because he thinks he is a ‘good earner’) by neutralizing Lalo, unaware that Fring had other plans in play.
The problem with this is that Saul clearly thinks that Lalo is alive when he is taken to the desert in BB.
I thought Lalo came to Jimmy and Kim to get them to deliver the tape he made to Hector.
It helped to humanize Howard, too. He has always given the impression of being slick and phony. Everything he says sounds like a sales job. But a man trying to save his marriage become he loves his wife is a sympathetic character. At the moment he mentions his marriage is on the rocks, Kim glances over at Jimmy, as if she’s thinking “oh, jeez, we’re hurting a person.”
I was an early adopter of digital cameras–bought a goofy little point and shoot with a lens that flipped around so you could selfie. Bought it in…lessee, '98 or so? Had the amazing resolution of 320x240, woooo! Cost $300, which was serious money at the time.
And yeah, back in the day it was dead common for regular folks to print their own B&W shots because the equipment and chemicals were nothing–hardest part was setting up a darkroom without light leaks. Printing color was a bit more complicated but not much more.
When Lalo shows up, Jimmy is shocked and says “no… how” like he thinks it’s impossible for Lalo to be alive. But didn’t they figure out that Lalo was probably alive based on Mike having guys follow Kim in case Lalo came after her?
Only Kim knows that Mike was following her. Jimmy has no idea.
Yeah, Kim’s been keeping a big secret from Jimmy.
Chuck, according to Howard, always knew that Jimmy had a piece missing. But their mother, IMO, always knew Chuck had a bigger piece missing, a fatal lack of charity. Jimmy’s pretty lousy, but I think of the two Chuck was far worse.
Regardless of what the University would have had on hand during this time period, the photos needed to look to Howard like what a P.I. would typically supply to a client.
I agree. For me a lot of the most compelling themes of the show ended with Chuck’s death.
Not that it’s not fascinating to see how Jimmy (and Kim) descend into becoming the type of people who spend their lives rationalizing horrible behavior—it is. And that’s as universal a theme as there is.
But the interaction between those badly-flawed brothers was something special to BCS.
I’m not sure what episode it is, but Gus explicitly wants Lalo out of jail and back in Mexico so he can be killed without raising suspicion on Gus.
never watched the show but ive read a lot of the season threads but I did find this … yall might find it interesting
I’m a little late to the party, so let me catch up a bit:
Somebody mentioned a prequel, but they gave it the wrong name. It would have to be called “Slippin’ Jimmy.”
I disagree that Kim’s determination to force a settlement is out of character. She is motivated by the same force that drives Cliff to give in and settle: She knows that dragging the case on may get an extra $100 for each of the plaintiffs, but many may not be around to receive it. Dragging the case out only benefits the lawyers. When the elderly lady at the Class meeting pointed this out both Cliff and his protege (Jimmy’s minder, what was her name?) look extremely uncomfortable. It is Howard, at his used-car-salesman best who steps up to convince everybody that drawing it out is the right choice.
Howard stole this case from Jimmy, he stole Mesa Verde from Kim, he is denying these old folks their income, and that’s on top of all of Chuck’s nightmarish treatment of Jimmy and Kim to which Howard capitulated and even acted as agent. So why is everybody talking about him as if he’s this lily-white sweetie pie? He has every reason to believe that he put the final nail in Chuck’s coffin. That’s why he’s falling apart and probably what affected his marriage “a year ago.”
I have no problem at all understanding how Kim decides to let Howard burn. Just the scene alone when he asks her to give that god-awful letter from Chuck to Jimmy. She hated him then.
As for Jimmy “letting it slip” that Lalo = Guzman. Wasn’t that the day after he woke up to find Kim with the chair up against the door? Maybe he wanted them to start surveilling his home and office, just for safety’s sake. After all, it was Kim who told him that Lalo was dead. So if she’s still scared, isn’t he scared too? Sadly, if the Feds believe he’s dead, then they are not coming to the rescue in the next episode.
Shawshank - a puff of air disturbs the bottom of the poster after the escape.
Albuquerque is a fairly small town, and Howard is a well-known guy. His car would be well known as well, especially by the police and sheriff’s deputies. If Jimmy is going to drive around town in Howard’s car, he needs to look as much like Howard as possible.
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I am also mystified by the clean-out of Saul’s McMansion. One would think that Law Enforcement would have gone through that thing with a microscope. But it does not have that appearance. And what about that weird little room behind the bathroom? Panic room? Security office? WTF?
Theory: Howard has always seemed to have a sort of longing for the friendship that Jimmy/Kim/Ernest etc. have. But what if it’s Kim? What if she led him on to get that office and he fell in love? Remember how adamant she was that Jimmy not interfere to get her out of doc review? The panicked look she gave Jimmy when Howard mentioned his marriage falling apart? Hmmmnnn.
OK, I’ll stop for now. More later.
Well, the first three things you listed are just incorrect. The only thing I can think of Howard doing on behalf of Chuck is not telling Jimmy that Chuck vetoed a job offer. That, and the letter, are on Chuck, not Howard.
“Let Howard burn?” That’s an awfully weird way to say deliberately destroy his life through months of planning/ and methodical effort.
Howard didn’t say “If you want to refuse your brother a job, you tell him.” He took it on, and played front man for Chuck’s cruelty. He helped gaslight Jimmy for the longest time, letting him think that Chuck was on his side. He plays the good guy, but did he ever stand up to Chuck? No. Because he was profiting from Chuck’s excellent legal mind.