One interesting thing I read on reddit is by having Mando on only three episodes this season puts him in a guest star category which is a less competitive category for an Emmy award
Yes, I agree with this. I was thinking more about Howard figuring out the specifics of what they’re doing, in a way that would let him fight back. Like with the golf club thing, it’s pretty likely that Howard (and Cliff) will find out about the scene that Saul made. If Saul does something with the car where Howard can prove he was somewhere else, then he could convince Cliff that Saul’s behind everything. It probably wouldn’t take too much convincing, given the way Jimmy forced his way out at Cliff’s firm.
Damn, I definitely didn’t think that was going to be end of Nacho (I thought some contrivance was going to let him live). And what a speech before taking Bolsa and then killing himself. Wow!
Though this also shed some interesting light on Saul’s protestations to Walt and Jesse in BB. He may just not know that Nacho is dead, even though he has working dealings with Gus and Mike.
Well, we know Nacho was not around for Breaking Bad and the way Saul threw his name around it seemed clear that he was completely out of the picture, either dead, escaped or in jail. So he had to go, and I can’t kick too hard about how it came about because he did manage to take back his agency and power at the end there. He didn’t die on his knees like a dog. Poor Nacho, he was a great character. The way these shows force us to get over the “scumbag, who cares?” position and give a damn for these poor trapped bastards is amazing.
Or he knew Nacho was dead and was blaming whatever on a dead man.
The end game of Kim is way more interesting to me. And I am dying for more Gene. I bet that we won’t get any until the second half of the season in July
But if they were tied to the cartel, blaming something on a person they knew died 3-4 years ago would likely not go over well.
Did they explain where and when Nacho got the shard of glass? Did I miss something?
In the last episode Gus broke a glass, cleaned it up and put the shards in a wastebasket. This episode Nacho saw the shards in it when he was looking out the window after Mike beat him. I don’t think Mike knew he had it. Mike seemed surprised when Nacho grabbed Bolsa.
I’d really hoped that Nacho would get out of this alive but knew that wasn’t going to happen. That twist, though, damn.
OK thanks. I was hoping it had something to do with the bottle Gus broke earlier, but I couldn’t make it work. But this makes sense.
This is a show where it really pays to pay attention to the smallest detail because you never know when it’s going to show up later. Like the pants Walt lost in like the first or second ep of BB that turn up again at the very end of the series. There’s no reason for that level of detail aside from coolness and training the audience to watch for the little things. Makes the red herring level of comment sections a little high but that’s part of the fun!
It was the stopper to a tequila bottle. In E201 Jimmy and Kim, pretending to be brother and sister interested in a financial service, get their mark at the bar to pay for some extremely expensive tequila shots. After finishing the bottle, “Giselle” (really Kim) is given the stopper as a souvenir.
No, I think @Munch was asking about the object in the rain at the beginning of the third episode. The one that was broadcast on April 25.
Not sure if this was directed at me, but to recap, the tequila bottle stopper seen in E201 is what is lying in the gutter at the beginning of E603. This is either an important clue or it isn’t–you never know…
It was directed at you - I was not asking about the stopper. I was asking about the object in the middle of the desert that the rain was falling on in the opening of episode 3. It was the shard of glass that Nacho cut his ties with and stabbed Bolsa with a couple of times.
The stopper isn’t going to be much of a clue - it’s simply there to show that Jimmy kept a significant memento of Kim throughout the timespan of Breaking Bad. The book “The Time Traveler” was also featured in the episode 1 opening, which he’s “currently” reading on his night stand.
I’ve been watching since the beginning of BB, so I know when they spend minutes on Gus dropping a glass and slowly sweeping up the shards….that detail is not in there for no reason.
I would’ve been disappointed if Nacho’s shard didn’t come from Gus’s broken glass, but I guessed I must’ve missed it somehow.
It’s at the end of the scene where Gus, Mike, and Nacho are going over what Nacho will say at the meetup. Gus and Mike go outside, Mike says his bit about being there for “insurance”, and then Nacho glances into the garbage. There’s a final shot where we see a few reflections of Nacho’s face from the pieces of glass. I didn’t realize what it meant at the time, but going back to watch again afterwards it’s clear that’s what it is.
Echos of Crazy 8’s shard in season 1 of BB.
Cliff would absolutely buy that story. Jimmy worked for him.
Yes, I thought the same thing!
I thought the opposite. In Breaking Bad, the scene where Saul says “It wasn’t me, it was Ignacio!” and “Lalo didn’t send you?” implies that Saul thought both were still alive, or at least that he thinks others may believe that. We know he’s been told Lalo’s dead, although Lalo’s true fate and Saul’s eventual knowledge of it remains unknown, as well as whether he ever learns of Nacho’s death.
By the way, I’ve always loved the way those throwaway lines in BB got spun several years later into those two incredibly vibrant characters, surely not yet conceived of at the time, outside of their names.
Nacho’s last speech was just masterful. Hilarious when the Cousins seemed actually offended at being called psycho sacks of shit, as though they think they’re standup guys. And the schadenfreude was very strong with me when Hector impotently shot Nacho’s corpse again, and again, and again, and again… how deliciously pathetic.