Biden 2020

Huh? The economy is doing just fine. Well enough that the Fed is likely to raise rates again at their next meeting.

What’s more likely is that if Trump passes the stimulus package that he’s promised, the economy is going to overheat, causing a lot of inflation.

The Ohio guy that stood for House Democratic leader vs. Pelosi will be a candidate sooner than later, IMO, but probably not yet for 2020.

Someone who challenges Nancy Pelosi from the left is probably not electable nationally. But we’ll see how he governs Ohio, since that seems to be what he’s aiming for.

My guess is that when the dust settles and people start thinking seriously about the next election, they’re going to look at the success of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and the failure of Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Al Gore. The conclusion will be that competence alone can’t win a presidential election. They’ll be looking for a candidate who has a lot of personal charisma. Somebody who can win over voters with charm. And let’s face facts, that’s not going to be Joe Biden.

And that would be a great way to lose by once again by fighting the last campaign.

As I pointed out, it’s been a factor in the last seven campaigns.

Updating this thread:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/434829-biden-tells-supporters-hes-planning-to-run-for-president-report

Wall Street Journal article:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-tells-supporters-he-plans-2020-bid-11553033380

I think I’ve amply expressed my negative feelings about a Biden candidacy in posts 26, 40, and 45 of this thread, so I won’t clutter up this thread with them.

Not a concern at all for me. Age is one concern for a “potus to be”. Another is sanity. Another still is judgement. With the current clown in office it is clear that the major concerns don’t act as an impediment. So why should age? The worst he could do is die in office. Bring Biden on, and at the debates put boxing gloves on him and Trump.

ETA: Didn’t realize the zombie status of this thread, but my thought still stands.

Biden should offer Trump his VP slot. The Republicans won’t know what hit them. I’m sure many times, Trump has glanced enviously at Pence and thought “Why isn’t that dummy golfing more? If I was VP, I’d golf a lot more.”

Duckworth.

Please run Hillary again. Please, please, *please *run Hillary again!!!

I hadn’t heard this one, but if that’s the game plan, then NO. And this has nothing to do with the objections to Biden I’ve voiced in other threads; this is just as true if he’s everything his popular image is.

The impetus for change in domestic policy is always at its strongest when a new party first recaptures the White House. Then the first midterms come along and the opposition party picks up a bunch of seats, the President has less of a margin of error within his own caucus, and before you know it the President is looking to foreign policy for the rest of his accomplishments.

You don’t want to waste those first two years ‘restoring normalcy.’ Not if we want to pass major climate change legislation before it’s too late. Not if we want to get the minimum wage up where it ought to be. Not if we want universal health care. Not if we want to strengthen workers’ rights.

And of course, Biden won’t push to get rid of the filibuster, and if nobody’s pushing him, Schumer won’t do it. And if the filibuster remains, then Mitch will block every damned thing the Democrats try to do.

Trump is a serious problem. Mitch McConnell is a far worse problem, and he will hold his caucus together. Any Presidential candidate without a plan to deal with that reality isn’t worth bothering with.

I’m not sure but I think Biden is running for president as of today: https://www.instagram.com/joebiden/

Yes, he officially announced:

The core values of this nation… our standing in the world… our very democracy…everything that has made America – America --is at stake. That’s why today I’m announcing my candidacy for President of the United States. #Joe2020