Fer sure. And they are doing polling to see which aspects of that mountain of shit they can throw has any chance of sticking, or at least distracting from the focus on Trump’s flaws and the very different visions of the future.
What they don’t have is recent real world experience with what is the best line to take. Or a leader with the discipline to focus the attack on things other than her laugh.
Likely the strongest attack line will be immigration.
And meanwhile the GOP has reported its strongest fundraising month in June since the “stop the steal” days of 2020.
I agree this will be a good attack line against her. It’s also why I think Mark Kelly would be a great running mate. Having a border state Senator on the ticket would hopefully allow the Dems to counter any attacks from Trump/Vance. Would love to see Kelly challenge Vance (and Trump) on why he didn’t support the bi-partisan border bill from earlier this year. There are plenty of videos and statements from Kelly showing passionate support for the bill at a time when Republicans ran from it due to Trump’s urging.
And an agree right back atchya!
The counter has to be that the dysfunctional GOP House, under Trump’s direction, blocked the bipartisan solution. And then get the conversation focused on reproductive rights and the vision of project 2025.
These two have already happened, right? He’s in Delaware recovering from COVID.
ETA: My point being it wouldn’t be too shocking for this particular bout with COVID to leave him unable to campaign effectively for some time, perhaps even causing a doctor to advise against extensive travel, etc.
This situation would be a gift to Republicans.
Remember how insane they were about masks and any other covid restrictions? How they started bringing up “fear” (= weakness) as the only reason people would follow expert medical advice, particularly around covid?
It is entirely possibly that Biden’s mild covid turns serious, or has serious consequences. I hope not for his sake, but also for ours.
Manchin tried to lay out a path of how to frame it. Basically, Biden cannot both campaign and be President. Campaigning is extremely hard. But Biden can be a good President for 5 more months. This walks the tight line of whether Biden should be President (if he’s withdrawing his nomination). Biden quite literally went campaigning to prove he was up to the task and got sick with Covid.
Not sure if I buy it, but it’s something plausible.
Then you have to frame the replacement process. Because it must plausibly be a democratic process. Since, you know, you’re accusing the other guy of being a threat to democracy and anti-democratic. That’s quite the tight-rope.
Hm, really? I guess I don’t see why Biden being unable to campaign due to a health issue would feed into the anti-precaution narrative.
Right, this is the tack I would take. Just doesn’t have the strength and stamina to do both jobs well, so for the good of the country is going to focus on the Presidency for the next 5 months.
The biggest problem is that ultimately it will be undemocratic, so the convention needs to be framed as “Biden delegates determining who the best candidate will be”. It is definitely a throw-back to how conventions used to be (before primaries were the thing they are today). But maybe there is a way to spin it positively and actually turn the DNC into something like a newsworthy event.
My thoughts are that they would use it to drive home the narrative that Democrats are weak snd fearful as evidenced by choosing a leader that’s so afraid of covid that he withdrew.
I realize that sounds stupid, but their technique is word association and ad hominem attacks, not rational arguments. “Biden got covid! Trump would never get covid!” The fact that Trump’s covid was well documented would cut no ice.
I don’t know. It’s hard to get into the minds of that crowd, but I just sense that Biden’s withdrawal due to covid would become part of their superiority narrative.
The covid story is pretty much over. Biden is over it. He does need to appear in person pretty soon.
On both points, you seem to be reacting to what you think you read rather than what I wrote.
Real profile in courage there from Clyburn. Of course, he’s one of the old fossils that simply will not go away that got us into this mess. Two whole generations don’t care what you did a decade or more before they were born.
Doesn’t it make sense that Biden and all his camp will be denying vociforously the possibility that he will step until the second he actually announces it? I can’t understand why people keep citing “he denies it” as evidence of anything. If he weren’t denying it as forcefully as possible, that would in itself be strong evidence that he intends to step down.
I think you are probably on the right track.
Haha, yes!
I’ve worked in marketing and advertising for a long time. One problem that is often faced is that a rival band has staked out a message or image for itself, and it is very hard to claim that you are better in that regard, even if you are. So if Tide is the “premium” detergent with all the bells and whistles, then it’s damn hard to take a current brand or bring a new one to market and occupy that same brand space.
So it has gone with Biden’s age. The smear–now backed up by reality, sadly–was that he was old and dottering. The fact that Trump is almost as old year-wise and exhibiting paraphasia and other signs of dementia matters not one fucking bit. Since Biden is old–Trump automatically is not!
Bring in Harris, and suddenly all the age stuff will stick to Trump. People will finally see the reality. The change will be stark–and very good for our side, IMHO.
If Biden steps aside, I can get excited about:
Harris, Whitmer, Buttgieg
or any governor that can almost assure a blue-state for a battleground state.
Good lord, I know it’s only one poll, but it’s continuing the horrifying trend: Trump now leads Biden in all geographic regions of Michigan, including Metro Detroit.
Joe, read the room. This is a state that Democrats won the governorship, AG, SoS and both chambers of the legislature just two years ago. And now you’re losing statewide to a convicted felon rapist who tried to overthrow the government less than four year ago.
Meanwhile, Trump and Vance held a rally in Grand Rapids with 12,000 people in attendance yesterday.
Ninja’d by one minute.
Not resigning the presidency. Just standing down from re-election.
Let the madness begin.
What an insane week. One week ago, Trump in Butler, PA, and today Biden steps aside. It could have been a Haley vs. Harris race by this point.
Meanwhile, I’m wondering what would have happened if the June debate had never happened. Without that cold/sickness, maybe Biden would have turned in a decent performance in September’s debate and he’d still be the nominee.