Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out)

If Biden resigned, Harris wouldn’t get a VP. And thus if something happens to her, Mike Johnson would become president.

Barring an overwhelming health issue, it’s imperative that Biden remains president. That doesn’t mean he has to stay the candidate.

But they’re not shutting the fuck up, and in a free country, never will. Sorry, but the cat is out of the bag.

I think it’s largely because he looks confused and out of it so often. This didn’t come from nowhere. It’s not like the lie about Obama’s place of birth where it’s just made up.

I think there is a difference between Biden looking confused so often, and the media showing the same shots of Biden looking confused so often. Twenty stories about the same car crash does not a twenty car pile-up make.

Trump also often looks confused, and even more often than Biden sounds confused. And yet the media chooses to portray Biden as confused and doddering, and Trump as somehow strong and focused.

Other than the Biased NYT, yeah, pretty much they are now.

QED upthread, post #1177:

Tick-tock.

Nice try going back 5 days to quote my post. The race has changed since then and the “Biden is a feeble old man” storyline is aging poorly.

Once the Trump shooting and the RNC stories stop dominating headlines I suppose the NYT will go back to banging that drum. I don’t think it will work that well for them.

This is an excellent point.

I’m less convinced of the value of Biden resigning, due only to the danger of a Mike Johnson Presidency. If we could be assured that Harris could get a VP seated, I’d change my view.

To those who believe the ‘Biden should pass the torch’ story is somehow over because of the rally incident: no. It isn’t.

If Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Obama, and the rest of the savvy Dems stop saying ‘we support Biden’ and start saying ‘Biden can win and we believe he should be the nominee,’ then I’ll start to think that the story is over.

Until then: no.

Nah, too easy.

No. I’m asking if they’ve adjusted their algorithms to accurately eliminate the error that seemed prevalent in the primaries.

Re last post, I hope not. Primary and general election issues are different.

Pollsters basically always do this anyway. They do some sampling that they know biases one way and other sampling that they know biases another way (i.e. polling landlines vs cell phones) and then they have to do the best the can weighing the different methods together to hopefully cancel everything out in the end. I haven’t really read them but there has been a ton of talk from pollsters about how they’ve tried to correct underestimating Trump in 2016 and 2020. It’s within the realm of possibility they’ve overcorrected or some other factor is at play this time.

I do agree that GOP primaries and the general are extremely different and it won’t necessarily automatically carry over.

… and 538 has run another 1,000 simulations since the JD Vance announcement. Biden got 530, Trump got 466 (four ties).

… and just that fast, they’ve rerun another 1,000 simulations - 513-483 for Biden :man_shrugging:

I think there is medication for this …

Biden just crushed it in the interview with Lester Holt. He had the stutter but mentally he was totally on it.

That would be, ahhh, sans teleprompter, correct?

Agree. He was lucid and confident.

It was an interview. No teleprompter. He took a few seconds to consider some questions but his answers ranged from thoughtful to bantering to challenging. This is the guy I want as President. (Still worried about his aging in the next four years though).

Thank you for confirming what I already knew was true.

There are a few people around here who should watch it, sounds like.