I was thinking more “graduation gown”, but yeah, what was up with that?
Best moment of the night:
Jeff: “Jesse, this room is not big enought for your head…and we are outside”
2nd best moment of the night:
Julie defining “Platonic” to Jesse.
Julie could have had the best moment if she had defined “tool” to Jesse.
Kevin really won me over with his gracious acceptance of the final eviction. It’s possible that being in such close proximity to Natalie 24/7 caused him to become evil, and once he got voted out the spell was broken and the real Kevin shone through. He also won some credit from me by planning to backstab Natalie. Even if it was for self-interest, anything anyone does that is bad for her is a redeeming value in my eyes.
On another site I mentioned how Natalie played the “weak female” card all game long, relying on men to carry her. At one point early in the season she and Jessie got into a mild fight because Natalie intentionally does not know how to change a tire and steadfastly refused to ever learn how. Her reason? “That’s a boy job. I’m a girl.” In this day and age, blatant old-school sexism like that just doesn’t fly, even to a meathead like Jessie.
Of everyone who went to the jury house, I’m not surprised Russell was the only one to vote for Natalie. He seems like the kind of guy who could buy into the “helpless woman” role as a legitimate strategy without just finding it offensive. I don’t think Chima accused him of misogyny out of thin air.
You’d think someone who exploits that mindset so easily would be more of a girly-girl, wouldn’t you?
Does anyone thing that the prize money is out of whack, compared to survivor?
Big Brother ~30 episodes, 500K 1st, 50K 2nd
Survivor ~ 13 episodes, 1 Million 1st, 100K 2nd
On the surface, BB looks to be more profitable. Lots more commercial time sold. BB invests a lot of money into competitions. Survivor invests a lot of money into locales.
I wonder what the accounting really looks like.
Survivor competitions are far more elaborate (and no doubt expensive) than anything BB ever dreamed of, at least going by what I saw this season. Were the competitions on this year’s BB stripped down compared to seasons past?
Survivor gets roughly double the viewers BB gets, (11m-14m vs 6m-8m,) but then again BB airs over double the number of episodes so that’s probably a wash. I don’t know how advertising rates work, though. Does double the ratings mean double the ad revenue, or do the ad rates go up faster than the viewership? I could see that being justified on the basis of scarcity; now with 500 channels low rated shows are a dime a dozen while high rated shows are precious commodities. But then, why wouldn’t the advertiser just buy more spots on lower rated shows to get the same penetration for a better price? Clearly, I don’t know how it works.
The prize money is way skewed, though. On BB, everyone gets $750 for each full week if they don’t make the jury house. Those who do make the jury house get $10k. Everyone gets a $5k bonus for showing up at the finale. Throw in $25k for America’s choice plus another $50k in various competition prizes and you’re looking at less than $800k in cash and prizes.
On Survivor, first place is a cool million. Second place gets $100k while last place gets $2500, with a fairly straight line for everyone in between. Add in a $100k America’s choice and it probably totals around double the prize money of Big Brother.
One funny scene on BBAD was Jordan finding out Survivor was only 30 days and saying how that that’s nothing, she would totally do that. Natalie and Kevin explained to her how brutal Survivor, what with the sleeping out in the rain and bugs eating you alive and having to eat fish (which Jordan hates) if you’re lucky, otherwise you eat bugs. Jordan’s face was too cute as they were explaining this; her eyes got as big as saucers.
Nope, they were pretty standard this year.
Yep. And while they’re mostly simple, they can be pretty elaborate. The set for the morph veto comp this year was kind of shiny, though I’m sure it was cheaper-looking up close than it was through the camera. And the Etov the Gorilla veto comp took quite a bit of logistical work, too, since they had to set up all the jungle stuff, at least.
The other factor is that the BB challenges are way more space-constrained than Survivor challenges are – they have x number of square feet available to them and not an inch more. On Survivor, they can use as much space as they want in pretty much any way they want (swim out to the raft and run into the jungle in separate legs of the same challenge).
Just out of curiosity – have they ever used the pool or some kind of swimming element in a BB challenge?
Off the top of my head (and I’ve seen every season but the first), no. The pool in the yard isn’t really big enough for all of them to even be in it at the same time until late in the season, and even then it’s not big enough to do anything like race in. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen them get so elaborate as to build a tank or anything. They do have comps based on water or other liquids, but not in a swimming capacity.
Yeah, that’s my recollection also, but my viewership is way spottier than yours.
I wasn’t thinking a swimming race so much as some kind of … stunt or suchlike. Passing balloons or whatever. Their challenges are way more cartoony than Survivor’s.
The BB challenges takes some investment. Design, Setup, Dismantling. The Pop a zit veto challenge early in the season had to have considerable cleanup and setup. And the wind and rain and fake snow of the log rolling.
But BB does recycle the podiums, etc. for the mental competitions like “Before and After.”
They used the pool in season 3 for the first round of the final HOH. There wasn’t any swimming though - it was an endurance competition of some sort. I don’t remember all the details, but I seem to remember them floating in inner tubes, and holding on to a key.
You’re right…now that my memory is jogged I do remember Dani, Jason and Lisa out there floating around, holding onto their keys.
Jeff and Jordan are currently running Amazing Race 16 together, to be broadcast this coming spring. (April, I think.)
It seems they became a romantic couple within days after the BB finale.
I just read that last night in last week’s Entertainment Weekly. They made a mistake in their very short write-up, though…they said Jeff and Jordan are the SECOND couple that TAR “borrowed” from one of their CBS sister reality shows, citing RobandAmbuh. But they will actually be the third, since Alison and Donny were in a season prior to RobandAmbuh’s. They didn’t last long since they couldn’t stand the sight of each other by the third leg, but they were on.
Yeah, I saw that same thing. I got the impression it was reported with a rumor-y feel to it so I googled around and found a messageboard with updates on where they actually are on the race. (It just started, so I luckily wasn’t spoilered, and someone posted a photo of them in what is clearly TAR gear.)
It should be interesting, anyway. I really liked Jordan as a person (not SO much as a player), but she’s easily going to be the dumbest Amazing Racer EVER. Talk about a lopsided team…
Dumb, maybe, but I bet she’d go down a waterslide.
True, dat. Jordan never struck me as being particularly timid about stuff like that.