Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists.

That’s because your premise is faulty. Presidents don’t dictate or even influence much how people think and behave. How many people began adopting conservative dress, manners and social values under Reagan or either of the Bushes?

WHO the fuck knows… I dont’t even consider them “Concerned Citizens” as much as I consider them “Gladys Kravitz’s”… but they exist and I still maintain it’s cringeworthy to watch Wille Jeff feed into it.

It almost appears symbiotic…

You got it, and yes, Clinton probably would be smarter to just say “yeah I inhaled, a lot, whatcha gonna do about it”. If he doesn’t give a shit, and no one else gives a shit, this entire circus stops. Or if he says “none of your fucking business”. Extra points if it goes on live, so it can’t be spinned or altered :smiley:

It was just a joke! I thought the smilies gave that away, but perhaps not. :smiley:

Sorry for the distraction from this otherwise spellbinding rant.

I was never at a point where I would be certain that Clinton lied about inhaling. I had a grandfather who smoked tobacco products including cigarettes and he never inhaled. He puffed. Hard to believe, but I’ve seen it often enough with him.

And I can remember the first time a joint was passed to me and the struggle between guilt and getting along with the group resulted in limiting myself to puffing. It didn’t go over well with my friends who were horrified with the waste. So I succumbed to the peer pressure and as others have mentioned , I didn’t get high. Mind you pot in those days was nothing like it is today.

And in my estimation,pitting this great man who has dedicated his life in the service of others over this stupid little issue is merely indicative of a useless human being.

You aren’t 1% of the man that Clinton is Starving Artist so crawl back under that rock you came from.

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me! Would you want this “great man” married to your sister? Your daughter? You think he wasn’t lying about not inhaling? What about all the other lies he’s engaged in, lies that are readily apparent to anyone with half a brain and which even his supporters in this thread readily acknowledge? He’s cheated on his wife, lied to Congress, been impeached and disbarred from the Supreme Court, and is currently trying to rehabilitate his stupid denial of smoking pot by claiming it’s a distortion made by his political enemies.

It looks like honesty and integrity don’t matter much to you, but if I thought I wasn’t 1% of the man Bill Clinton is I’d take out a gun and put a bullet in my brain.

I meant to address this too. All he has ever dedicated his life to is trying to be the biggest big-shot that he could be. If he had truly been trying to be of service to others he wouldn’t have governed as he did, which was with an eye on next year’s election and last night’s polls. He had no standards, no goals, and no ambitions other than to be a big-shot. He would do whatever paid off politically and that was it.

Spit or swallow?

You know who else wasn’t 1% the man Clinton was…

Knowing Dutchman’s political beliefs, as demonstrated on this board, I’m guessing he’s either not feeling well or he thinks he’s committing parody.

I may have been wooshed?

It came as a surprise to me, too. I thought The Flying Dutchman was a conservative but in reading that post I decided I must have been thinking of someone else.

So if your post’s a whoosh, FD, I commend you sir. I bought it hook, line and sinker.

(And if not, what the hell are you thinking!?) :smiley:

If president’s don’t influence how people behave, why do you get yourself into such a lather over Clinton’s dishonesty? Take away the morality argument, and judged on achievements (budget, peace, and prosperity) his time in office was a success.

FD used to be puddleglum, so he certainly does have a conservative posting history. I had to read the Clinton-praise twice because I couldn’t believe it was coming from FD. Which is why I think he was attempting humor. Such as it is.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure he got me, though I don’t think I was his intended audience.

I should have known better, though. I’ve never heard anyone speak so glowingly of Clinton before, not even his most ardent admirers. If I weren’t so used to people telling me to go pound sand I’d probably have realized it. :wink:

Well, you never know, people change. By the way, I left a box of liberal brain weevils over there, anybody know what happened to it?

Eddie Murphy picks up trannies? Honestly, if I didn’t visit this board, I’d have no idea what’s going on in the world.

I just don’t like that arrogant, lying bastard. What can I say? It’s like lies are the primary tool he uses to make people think what he wants them to think and to get what he wants, and in keeping with his Slick Willie moniker he seems to have it calculated out so that he knows that for every lie he tells, most people won’t know any better and that the relatively few who do won’t be enough to matter. I’ve often wondered if he and Hillary don’t get together privately sometimes and chuckle between themselves at all the shit they can pull and still get people to support them.

Ann Coulter…wait, no, she is.

Has anyone mentioned that Bill Clinton sold short the office of the President by getting a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky, when he, as President of the United States of America, could have clearly recieved oral pleasures from far more attractive women?

That slimy Arkansas bastard! Kennedy had much higher standards!

And why are conservatives mad at Clinton anyway - he got more Republican policies passed than most Republican presidents!

Heh Heh Heh Heh Heh

He’s a sleazebag, that’s why.

And I suspect the landslide Republican congressional elections in '94 was a significant reason for the success of various Republican policy efforts.