And who exactly are these organizers and founders of which you speak?
700 club and any other Protestant and American Evangelical, competing, lie. The religion that is splintered, and scizophrenic from normal… His Illusion. The organization that led him to his peculiar and unusual beliefs…the thing that makes him heretical and American from true Christian Beliefs.
Tim Tebow is a lot more like Ned Flanders than Pat Robertson. Both can be annoying, but given the choice, I’d definitely prefer to have Flanders as my neighbor.
The religous organiztion that imprinted him quite oppourtunistkicallyy and cynically, not to mention selectively, with published Home teachings. He is a a moronic Christian only supplied with propaganda.,
So you think that Christianity was “founded” and “organized” by the 700 Club?
With all due respect, you are severely misinformed on this matter. I’m trying to exercise some restraint here, but really… You really should become better informed on a subject before you speak out against it.
It’s just that the 700 club represents so many of the fringe Christian beliefs and supports what is wrong with Protestantism in its peculiar American form that I condemn them to their iluusionary hell. They are simply fanatics in a moderate world.
Definately getting a *hate-like *feel from your responses.
Yup, hatred coming through loud and clear. But in retrospect, it make not be hatred for Tebow. Maybe just directed at Christianity, or maybe religion as whole? Tebow just a visible and easy target?
Marley23 is right. He’s Ned Frickin’ Flanders. He may be annoying but there doesn’t seem to be an ounce of malice in him. Seems like good-natured sort. Until I see some malice, I say let folks be.
That’s not what you said, though. You said that the “organizers and founders” of Christianity were exploiting Tebow, so I asked you who those people were. It seems to me that you’re just playing fast and loose with the facts. Heck, you’ve now practically admitted it, stating that you were simply motivated by your intense dislike of the 700 Club and their ilk.
Personally, I don’t think that makes for a very meaningful discussion.
Meh. I won’t go out in public and mock Tebow, but I don’t see anything wrong with other public figures taking potshots at him.
That’s the price everybody pays for being a public figure - Christian, NFL QB, anarchist, or whatever. Doubly so for anybody that the subject of so much hero worship. Maybe that’s not fair, but dem’s the breaks.
Tebow seems to be getting a pretty fair trade. He’s not a very good quarterback at this point, but he’s getting adulation and millions of dollars, and even if his NFL success is limited he’ll be able to make a living in speaking and broadcasting gigs.
There are plenty of people who get adulation and millions of dollars who aren’t the subject of so much antipathy. So, he’s go a rough deal compared to them.
Then again, there are plenty of mediocre QBs who’ll never have that kind of fame and money.
So, I guess it’s a wash.
Personally, I hope he doesn’t go into sports broadcasting. Nice enough kid and would make serious bank as a speaker, but I don’t find his voice particularly appealing on TV.
And that’s not a personal slight. Brett Favre is a horrible color commentator. He’s got an appropriately deep voice and knows his stuff. But he doesn’t provide very much color and speaks in a monotone.
I don’t either. That is the price of fame. And it is fair to judge those public figures for doing so.
The silly part is Maher’s comments via tweet were mild and restrained. A little harmless fun. I couldn’t see any meanness in them.
Preaching is not the same as praying. Aside from teaching his disciples the Lord’s Prayer, and perhaps his last words on the cross, I can recall no such public prayers. Cite?
I don’t claim to be a Christian, and I don’t pray in public, so I don’t know what you are on about.
He’s not “the subject of so much antipathy.” He was the subject of a rather mild quip, one which some people might consider deserved and some might not.
And Ned Flanders is constantly mocked. In fact, the actual character of Ned Flanders constitutes at least 49 percent mockery.
The need for humor. He is the butt of jokes that make people laugh. Mocking someone is not hatred.
I’ll agree people are taking Maher’s tweet way too seriously, but Tebow IS the subject of a ton of antipathy.
How many different threads are there on the guy on this board alone? How much controversy is there because not everybody considers him the greatest thing since sliced bread? He’s been called a joke of a QB pretty much every week and had constant jokes made about his public displays of faith.
Just to make sure my point was totally clear, I said he’s more Flanders than Robertson. Flanders is absolutely a figure of fun: he’s a goody two-shoes, he’s holier than thou, a naif, meek, and dogmatic even when he admits the rules he is following don’t make any sense. It’s just that those qualities rarely overwhelm his fundamental decency, and he is ultimately a very good and giving person who will do almost anything to help others. I have no idea if Tebow is anywhere near that good, but he seems alright. What they have in common is being very chipper, cheery Christians who want to tell you all about it. 
Robertson is vile, judgmental, bigoted, self-aggrandizing, stupid, dishonest, and I’m probably forgetting some stuff. I’ve never seen that side of Tebow, if it exists. I very much prefer Flanders to Robertson, but that doesn’t mean I think we shouldn’t make fun of the Flanderses of the world. Life would be pretty unbearable if we couldn’t. I do think some perspective is called for, but the fact that Maher made a joke about Tebow right after a football game doesn’t indicate that his priorities are of out whack, that he hates Tebow, or anything of that type.
We could probably think of some, but if so, there are very few. Once you get to be as famous as Tebow is - he’s been made fun of on Saturday Night Live, so it’s not just football fans who know him - some people are going to loathe you for one reason or another.
I was thinking of religious broadcasting, not football commentary. However long his career lasts, he should have a long career as a motivational speaker and on Christian TV/radio/internet/whatever.
How so? If he’s only praying as he is to impress, then yeah, he’s a hypocrite. But there’s nothing to indicate that he’s insincere. He’s a wee overzealous, yeah. But I don’t think he’s only trying to put on a show.
Matthew 14:19
Taking the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, he said the blessing, broke the loaves, and gave them to the disciples, who in turn gave them to the crowds.
John 11:41, 42
So they took away the stone. And Jesus raised his eyes and said, “Father, I thank you for hearing me. I know that you always hear me; but because of the crowd here I have said this, that they may believe that you sent me.”