Bin Laden and Bush in cooperation ?

I may be hallucinating this but maybe someone can check this out :
We all know that the USA and the Saudis are supposed to be on the same side. We also heard some evidence that the Saudis are secretely connected with Bin Ladin ,which they deny . I wouldn’t know if the above is true or not , but if they are secretely connected to Bin Ladn ,then , would it be a great stretch of the imagination to suspect that the USA is also secretely connected to Bin Ladn ? It sure sounds crazy , but can you think of someone who may have benefited from 9/11 ?
Before 9/11 Bush was a laughing stock , an object of ridicule , a most unlikley person to be president. After 9/11, he has become almost godlike in power(shudder ):eek: To criticize the man is looked upon as high treason ! He’s using his power to put forward his plans to invade Iraq ( I am not saying whether that is a good or bad thing ; I just don’t know.) I have heard talk in this message board that Bin Ladn,himself, with his Saudi friends wanted to elliminate Saddam but didn’t have the ability to do so by themselves . The solution ? Bomb the Twin Towers and elevate their buddy ,George W , to the status of conqueror ,for which he will be rewarded with Iraqi oil .
So what do you think ? Am I completely nuts ?

I’m not a qualified psychiatrist, and even someone who is could hardly evaluate your mental condition based on a post to an Internet message board, but I would say that the conspiracy theory you describe is completely nuts.

Yes, you’re nuts. Keep in mind that this person here:

was chosen to be President over all other contenders by millions upon millions of people. Your opinion does not equal the opinion of everyone. In fact, vis a vis Bush your opinion can be shown to be dead wrong.

Bin Ladin has been carrying out terrorist actions against the USA for many, many years - remember the embassy bombings and the Cole? In any case, why would Bin Ladin want to help Bush? And if Bush was connected to Bin Ladin, why would he make it a priority to immediately dismantle Al Queda by any reasonable means necessary? That hardly seems the way to repay his close friend.

The existance of Al Queda does not matter to the Saudis ; they merely want Saddam out of the way. Nor does it matter to Bin Ladn; he wants Saddam out of the way so that he can reestablish the Caliphate in Bagdad , something which he is known to be keen on ( as described in "the man who declared war on America ")
As far as my opinion of Bush not being equal to the opinion of everbody— that’s right , but I know that I didn’t dream up the stuff I saw on “Leno”, SNL ,Doonesbury,Boondocks etc.
Finally, I think you are in on the conspiracy ! :eek: Someday it will be revealed what you know and when you knew it!

Yes, and we all know Jay Leno, SNL, Doonesbury, Boondocks, etc., are dedicated to being agenda-free and objective. :rolleyes:

flabbygirlyman, you’ve got to be satirizing here, right? I mean, no one could seriously be getting all their news from " ‘Leno,’ SNL, Doonesbury, Boondocks etc.," right? Would you please document sources–news sources, not commentary sources–when you raise such a potentially inflammatory topic as this?

Hmm, now that I look back at the OP, the answer to your question is “No, you’re not nuts, you’re just a goofball. Please do some actual research rather than believing everything you hear.”

In related news, that scratching sound on the door of your car is the HOOK-HAND of the local ESCAPED KILLER CONVICT. You have been warned.

I never said that the above were objective or agenda-free . I only meant that they existed ! and that they showed a certain amount of ridicule being held for the president.

Great, another troll-in-the-making…What are you gonna say next, that it was Mossad that flew those planes into the center?

I wasn’t sure about my post in the beginning , but after reading all the mean spirited denunciations I’m beginning to feel I am definitely on to something. Nowhere did I say the Mossad flew those planes ; they were the work of Bin Ladn ! Don’t put those words in my mouth! and don’t call me a troll ! My goal wasn’t to get some kind of reaction via inflammatory statements . I was hoping for a reasoned discussion of some notions that popped into my head that , at the time, seemed plausible and,which, still seem plausible because nobody can offer anything other than angry ,partisan, insults.

What that Bush and Bin Laden go in Hand in hand, give these people on these boards at least some thought of intelligence.

Is there any logical reason for this, or do you just enjoy being contrary? What is it about derision that makes you more convinced that you’re ‘on to something’?

Derision is actually quite nice ,now that you mention it. But in this case , derision alone doesn’t answer any questions. It may serve as entertainment to some ,but no more .

In honor of the OPer’s username sounding like something Hans and Franz would say, I present the OP translated from English to German and back to English.
I can be the Halluzinieren this, but possibly someone can check this out: All we know that the USA and the Saudis on the same page are to be. We heard also something proof that the Saudis are attached secretely with sorting drawer Ladin, which they refuse. I would not know, if specified the above is applicable or not, but, if it were then attached will secretely to sorting drawer Ladn it a large expansion of the fantasy for assuming to be that the USA secretely to sorting drawer Ladn is also attached? The safe moved tones, but you can think of someone, which can have profited from 9/11? Before 9/11 shrubs were a laughter supply, a message of ridicule, most unlikleyperson to its president. After 9/11 it is in more power(shudder almost godlike become) around the man will criticize geschauen up than high treason! It uses its energy to bring its plans forward in order to penetrate the Iraq (me legend not whether the one good or false thing is; I even do not know), I heard discussion in this message board, which required sorting drawer Ladn, with its Saudi friends to elliminate Saddam, but not the ability had to do, through even in such a way. The solution? Bombard the double essays and increase you its friend, George W, to the status of conqueror, for which it is recompenced with Iraqi oil. So which you think? Am I completely nuts/mothers?

Band Name!

Thank you ,Mullinator , for your wonderfully pointless addition to the discussion . You really

it up ! :smiley:

Right - neither does your post.

Let me rephrase. You said

Do you have any real reason for feeling you’re on to something, or do you just feel like being contrary.

He is just out to get us all mad with his hairbrained conspiracy.
Look.

There is NO link between the US government and the WTC attacks.

It was carried out by Al-Queda and planned by Osama Bin Laden.

NO ONE ELSE.

No conspiracy, no coverups, get over it.

No, I am not someone who likes being contrary . Let me rephrase : If I put forth a hypothesis and the only response from others is derision , then maybe they couldn’t come up with a decent rebuttal . While this doesn’t necessarily mean my hypothesis is valid , it doesn’t help me come to different conclusion ; yes , I know my original post had a lot of crazy sounding ideas----I said so . Bin Ladin and Bush holding hands!? ---- “what kind of idiots do you think we are on this message board?” Maybe it’s not like that at all;maybe Bush,himself,isn’t in on this. But Bush has an awfull lot of seedy friends giving him advice ( ex. the venerable “Skull and Crossbones” crowd) . These are powerful men(some of them big oil men);they know other powerful men—maybe even powerful saudis Use your imagination; this situation has “possibility” written all over it. I can’t prove it one way or the other but the only thing going against this hypothesis is that it sounds crazy and worthy of derision

Flabby…Can I hear you say, All Your Base Are Belong To Us?

I wish you would stop inventing motives for me: I am NOT trying to get you all mad with my hairbrained conspiracy. Repeat after me : “Flabby, you are not a troll”.