There’s a chasm of difference between an action carried out by a legitimate state and a terrorist. The US and other countries kill innocents by accident. They’re expected casualties, but still collateral. Terrorists kill innocents as a matter of policy. If al-Qaeda were some guerrilla organization or freedom movement, you wouldn’t see that kind of jubilant behavior. You don’t see it (usually) when opposing generals are killed in wars. You didn’t see it when Saddam or his kids were captured/killed. The most you saw was some back-slapping and congratulating.
But this is different. This is not an opposing legitimate force. This is a group that purposely targets the entire western hemisphere, spreading death and destruction wherever it goes.
I hate how this board likes to cry “for shame!” on every example of blood lust and revenge, as if these natural, human qualities are somehow despicable. These emotions are the very things that drive our sense of justice, fairness, and social order. Posters want to say “How dare they celebrate someone’s death.” but then freely admit with great conviction that the world is a better place without UBL.
You know what’s ugly? The idea that every human life is sacred. The idea that some people don’t just simply need killin’. This is what makes the world go 'round, whether you call it justice or blood lust.
Bull fucking shit. The US are the only Western nation I’m aware of where the citizenry will say"Let’s bomb them" everytime their country encounters some mild interference on the world stage.
Really guys, you dont look that good from afar.
I was going to make a reasonable comment about how few US citizens want to make a parking lot out of countries that do us serious harm, but decided to return ugliness with ugliness.
Darn, aint that convenient, when you see images of “The Arab street” rejoicing on september 11, apparently it is solid proof of their crazy belligerent nature.
When the US act the same way, cleaaaaarly it is “only a few of us”.
What’s so hard to understand? Cheering 9/11 = bad. Cheering justice being served for 9/11 = good. USA = right. Al Qaeda = wrong. It’s not fucking hard to figure out. Who’s side are you on, anyway?
I, for one, will continue to cheer when America’s enemies get shot in the head. Every time.
On the side of the intelligent, a faction you deserted long ago, apparently.
You still have that “whose side you’re on” back there?
What are you? Joseph Mc Carthy?
Well, dont fake outrage when your “enemies” display the exact same behavior that you do.
I don’t think you understood what i was saying. republicans are crediting George Bush with killing Osma bin Laden because its his policy set 10 years ago that resulted in Osama’s death last week. Meanwhile, anything bad that happens during a Republican presidency is the result of soemthing Democrats did during their last time at bat.
I thought it particularly interesting for this audience, since it derives from ethical Humanism.
I think that publicly celebrating the killing of someone is … tacky. I think its OK to have, and to acknowledge, feelings of relief, even happiness. To, if you so desire, get together with like minded friends and toast the SEALS who brought this about. To privately say, to a few close friends “I’m glad that bastard is dead.”
But to treat anyone’s death as a World Cup soccer victory is not at all respectful of humanity. And if you don’t want to respect bin Laden’s life, I can understand that, but life itself is worth more than that.
Why do you continue with the false equivalence? Americans and terrorists are not opposite sides of the same spectrum. What we do is just and right. What they do is pure evil. Do you deny that this is true?
And yet, only the former has any bearing on Sunday night’s celebrations. “Life itself” never entered the equation. If you want to say “But bin Laden’s life was a life nonetheless,” then you really don’t understand not wanting to respect his life.
Please show me the mortgages that Fanny and Freddy originated,
The answer is zero. The bad mortgages were create by the banksters and sleezy mortgage companies who did not care about whether they were good or not since they had no intention of keeping them. And that was followed by Fannie and Freddie creating CDOs . Wait, that was the bankers too, wasn’t it. Well they must be responsible for AAA rating all the bad mortgages ? Nope, that was the rating companies who caused that.
The bankers are responsible for that mess. Put the blame where it belongs on the back of politicians who killed regulation and the freewheeling bankers who were looting homeowners across the world at an incredible rate.
