Seriously. Cherry pepsi expelled nasally hurts.
I really don’t mean to quibble with you. But since this is a Pit thread, I suppose someone is required to argue about something. What exactly do you think I did when I got pregnant with my kids, exactly? Stuff 'em in a jar and stash 'em in the closet? 
If they come out of your body, YOU are giving birth. The female doesn’t do it by osmosis. Just my opinion, of course.
:smack: :smack: :smack: :smack:
And I’m sorry for messing up your screen name.
Ah, forget it. It’s more of a Shelbyville idea anyway…
Why do I get the feeling that this narrator went on to a long and illustrious career as “fact checker” for Trivial Pursuit?
Or quite possibly Rush Limbaugh…
I prefer Margaritaville, myself. 
searchin’ for my large shaker of salt, some people claim that there’s a woman to blame, but I know, it’s my own damn fault
Who are you who are so learned in the ways of science?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
You’re close, but you got #2 kinda reversed.
Are you callin’ me squid dick, cowboy?
Hey, it’d be better than “Octopussy”. 
I’m guessing that you changed oocytes(OTTOMH I think that’s the right term) to ova, dropped them from ovarian folicles so that they could rendezvous with team spermatozoa, then had blastocysts implant on the walls of your uterus, after that you spent about nine months passing oxygen and nutrients to the fetus.
The male seahorse only produces sperm. The female seahorse produces eggs. The male fertilizes these. The pouchs main function IIRC is to keep the fertilized eggs safe from predators. He doesn’t pass nutrients or oxygen to the eggs. The pouch is an external thing. IIRC the male penguin carries fertilized eggs between his feet and belly. It’s the same principle. He didn’t produce the egg. He fertilized it and keeps it safe until it hatches.
Or you could throw in the midwife toad as another example.
Naw! Rverybody knows Rush Limbaugh is a reptile!
Ya know what the midwife toad me?
“Get out of my light, you sperm doner!”
Yesssssss! Boobies! One great big boobie and a little baby boobie that’s already been to the boobie hatch.
Can you say rubber baby boobie bumpers three times fast without slobbering? ::hic!::*
Yes, but please note, at no time did I say the male sea horse was pregnant. (wait, did I? Crap I don’t remember. Hang on, back to page one. Okay, no, I didn’t.) I said he gave birth. Which, technically, he does. The baby seahorses are born from an organic pouch on his body. They are born live. He gives birth to them.
I would disagree that this constitutes birth. There are egglaying species which do give birth to live young. OTTOMH ovaviviparous species include- some species of shark in which the female never lays the eggs but incubates them inside her body until they hatch in a pseudo-uterus, and rattlesnakes in whch the mother retains the eggs (which have a very thin and transparent shell) within her body until they are ready to hatch, the young snakes hatch immediately upon exiting the mother’s body. Here, there is a grey area as to what constitutes birth. Not so with the hippocampus.
The female seahorse produces and lays eggs. Young exit the mother as undeveloped eggs. The embryos develop and grow to maturity outside of the mother’s body. The male seahorse incubates the fertilized eggs in an external pouch. There are some species of insect in which the female uses her ovipositor to lay the fertilized eggs under the skin or exoskeleton of another animal. This does not make the dog, spider, or human being with larvae hatching out of their skin the birth mother.
May I just pause to first say: Ew. Ew, ew, ew. I just finished lunch.
I agree that in the cases you mentioned, the remaining mass of organic tissue does not constitute “giving birth.” I think the distinction we are quibbling over is semantic; are you saying that surrogates do not give birth because they did not produce ova? Or that, in this particular case, the ova would be “hatched,” even were they not attached to the male seahorse? One last question: Are hippocampi mammals?
If it helps at all (which I’m sure it doesn’t) ever since I learned that the male seahorse “gives birth” to the young, I periodically have to go over in my head why this doesn’t just make him the female, and hence the mother. And as soon as I reason it out in my head, all nice and logical-like, I promptly forget, and go through it again the next time I have reason to give it thought.