I’ve tried soy and oat milks. I didn’t like the flavor of soy milk. Oat milk is okay, but very “oaty”. It worked okay on my oatmeal, where the flavor was compatible. But it just tastes really weird in coffee, and i didn’t care for it.
I’ve also tried almond milk, but mostly i was sad that it was so thin and didn’t have much flavor.
We’re you eating those pancakes anyway? I don’t think the issue is that “adding stuff unsure the good of coffee”, i think the issue is that eating fat and sugar isn’t very good for you, and coffee doesn’t undo that.
I’d guess you are slightly better off adding a cup of coffee to your breakfast pancakes than not doing so.
Also, I’d guess the health impact is minor, and your primary decision should be based on whether you enjoy coffee with breakfast or not.
Almond milk is sad. I hate that shit.
I need the protein a dairy would add, but the sugars don’t compute very well. Cows, almond, or soy. Never tried oat.
What I wouldn’t give to eat a stack of pancakes. No waffles. Wait, lemme think on this…
I’ve never loved pancakes. I mean, they can be tasty. But if I’m having a hot breakfast, give me eggs, please. Maybe some breakfast meat.
There’s egg in the pancakes. Fie on meat, I’m vegetarian.
After first having oat milk in my coffee I thought that it tasted a bit nutty, like hazelnuts, which wasn’t an unpleasant taste at all, but after a few days I din’t even taste the difference between cow and oat milk anymore.
How did you come to that conclusion?
Easy, I think that generally plant based fats are healthier than animal based. I was told so when I was in rehab after getting a cardiac stent 10 years ago, but I had known it even before that.
I like the flavor of dairy too much. Specifically, cow milk.
That was why margarine was thought to be healthier than butter - but I suspect you know it wasn’t.
Honestly whole milk is by weight 3.25% fat. A tablespoon or so in your coffee is not a meaningful amount of fat, less than half a gram.
And dairy has some strong arguments for it. Not just the A and D vitamins and the protein, not just the calcium, but the matrix that holds the calcium that supports bone, muscle, and even heart health.
Not dissing oat milk. But this isn’t olive oil heavy Mediterranean diet vs hot dogs here. Dairy, including even whole fat dairy, in moderation, is a fine nutritional choice with some benefits oat milk lacks.
…So long as you’re among the minority of humans who are lactose-tolerant as adults, of course.
To be serious, even then. Most lactose intolerant adults aren’t so intolerant that they can’t handle a tablespoon in their coffee. And there is dairy low enough in lactose that most of us lactose sensitive folk can eat moderate amounts of it - kefir, Greek yogurt, some cheeses …
You know, we are omnivores, and i think there are a lot of paths to a healthy diet. Eat about as many calories as you burn. Get enough of all the essential amino acids and fatty acids. Eat a variety of plants. Maybe take a multivitamin as insurance. Get enough exercise. And enjoy the foods you eat. If you feel good about oat milk, then it’s a fine component of your diet.
My father taught metabolism at a major medical school. He believed you should eat for joy, and that the difference in expected lifespan between a diet you like with no huge glaring problems and the best possible diet was quite small.
I am mildly obsessive about eating clean/simple foods.
Dairy milk is simple in its complexity. (NOVA group 1)
Nut/seed and grain milks are super processed.
Yeah, I can live with out fake milk.
Really I can live with out cow milk. It is made for calves. Ya know 
Mostly agreed. There are lots of paths, overall nutrition patterns that are healthy … and unfortunately the foods (or food like products) that mostly surround us in the modern world make being on one of those many paths something that has to be a conscious choice. The caution I have is that the current food environment contains so many products designed to hit the tastes great eat more part of the brain lots and hit the that’s enough center hardly at all, hedonic and satiety centers officially, that “enjoy” can easily go awry without some thought.
The current thread on exercise machines in this forum illustrates the great limits of eat the calories you burn - actually knowing what you burn is harder than people think and people are going to be wildly off. And people in general are bad knowing what actually goes in too.
No need to debate this again here, there have been many multivitamins threads, but let’s leave it that I would not include that on the list.
Yeah nothing horrible about “oat milk” but nothing healthier about it either. If you like it use it; cow’s milk and other dairy is fine too, if you like it. Including in your coffee and with chocolate in moderation. And there are healthy paths with neither “oat milk” or dairy.
Total aside but the oat “milk” bit provokes a small rant. New local vegan place opened up. Tried it. Mostly stuff hyper processed to be faux animal products. Blech. If I am eating vegetables give me vegetables, not hyperprocessed imitations of animal products!
There are medieval recipes that call for almond milk. Milk of magnesia is a thing. I don’t have any problems with referring to white liquids you drink as “milk”.
The multivitamin question is an interesting one. My doctor says not to bother. (As did my dad.) My nutritionist recommended it. They are cheap and safe. And as you say,
I’m pretty sure it’s better to get all those nutrients from food, embedded in the matrices we were evolved to extract them from. I try to eat a variety of whole foods And also … Multivitamins are cheap and safe. And placebos work. 
Getting back to the topic at hand: as i enjoy my morning tea (also healthful, as best as i can tell) I’m happy that foods as delicious as coffee and chocolate are also healthful.
And now, off to prepare for Thanksgiving, where i can be thankful for coffee, chocolate, and more.
First off have a wonderful holiday! That said … no one is using Milk of Magnesia as ersatz dairy milk; and Medieval folk were not using almond milk as if it was dairy either. It had its own specific uses. Those things are called milk because they look sort of like it. It’s like chicken drumsticks aren’t to used to play drums, bear claws just sort of look like that, linguine are shaped like tongues not used as them, and penne are not used to write with.
Oat milk is a milk substitute which is different. And fine to do! But with the holiday nigh, if I’m not eating meat then give me a tofu dish, not tofurkey. A vegan restaurant whose selections are mostly processed vegetable products that try to seem like meat … no thanks. And oat milk just reminded me of it.
I quite often take my kids to the seaside to swim, early in the morning. Then using a camping stove make pancakes and coffee (for me)
But I pre-make the batter and pour it into a water bottle, and have a plastic bottle of maple syrup, some cinnamon in my backpack.
The admiring glances from some dads and moms at the rockpool hopefully inspires.
They were. At least, according to both Max Miller and Wikipedia they were.
Wikipedia:
Almond milk was used as a substitute for animal milk in the Middle Ages in areas that followed Catholic fasting laws. Recipes for almond milk in the Middle East date back to at least the 13th century, as it was mentioned in Muhammad bin Hasan al-Baghdadi’s book Kitāb al-Ṭabīḫ (كتاب الطبيخ; The Book of Dishes ), written in 1226.
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the most basic dishes were given in fast-day as well as ordinary-day versions. For example, a thin split-pea puree, sometimes enriched with fish stock or almond milk (produced by simmering ground almonds in water), replaced meat broth on fast days; and almond milk was a general (and expensive) substitute for cow’s milk.[7]