Being of mixed race (or what less-enlightened days called “high-yellow”) does not equate with being a blue-eyed blonde.
So… basically what youre saying is if brad pitt ( or one of thse other short actor guys ) hard dark skin, you wouldn’t like him?? thats kind of fucked up in my opinion, did you ever see black people when you ere growing up?
I myself am a black person, and i’ve found that alot of white girls have a “thing” for black guys, maybe this is the other side of the coin…
Not necessarily, no. But it can. All I’m saying is that I’ve got some Black people in my family tree what’d fool ya. Some, in fact, who have made it their business to fool a whole lotta folks, and have suceeded at it. Point being that the chick in the theatre (from the OP) might easily have been making out with one of 'em as she talked about the unattractiveness of Black men, when really it’d be better for her to adopt your tactic, and just say “I’m not attracted to boys with dark complexions.” Nothing wrong with that.
Also, my grandfather is half white and could “pass”, would you find him: and extremely light skinned but still black man, unactractive?
Actually, that’s not what people in this thread are saying. “I don’t want to boink him” and “I don’t like him” are very different things.
I will agree, however, that if you would want to boink a guy, but your desire to boink him changed when you found out he was a light-skinned black man, well, then you are racist.
Sua
I think about that, myself, but I think maybe it’s the idea of basing such a decision any sort of blanket racial generalization that bothers me–like the idea that all Black men have dark skin and afros, or, on the flip side, the idea that all Black men kick ass in the sack.
I myself know a (White) woman who has recently moved to a new city and, bored with her SO’s boring friends, has decided that what she really needs is a Black friend.
Well. I happen to think that everyone needs a Black friend 
, but this comment bothered me for several reasons:
a) it implies that her SO’s friends are boring because they’re White and, by extension,
b) it implies that Black people are somehow incapable of being boring (being the entertainers that we are), not to mention that
c) it makes her sound like she’s trying to complete her “Ethnic Friends” collection (once she gets that Black friend, all she’ll need is an Asian and a Mexican, and her mantle display will be complete!)
So I guess it’s not so much a matter of what you find attractive or unattractive (physically or personality-wise) that gets to me… it’s making race-based assumptions about traits that aren’t necessarily racial.
JMO.
Not really the best GD vocab there. Let’s see, I was raised in Kentucky and Tennessee in a majority black area, got bussed to a black school, so YES. I live in the DC area, worked for a majority black company, so I can say that I’m not racist. or as non-racist as one can be in the U.S.
Exactly. If someone is boinkable, then I’m going to boink him, ethnicity be damned. If he’s really blonde, muscled, and hairy, I don’t care where he’s from, lemme at 'im!
The fact remains that I, and many other gay guys, are not attracted to black men. Conversely, many gay white guys ( the majority in DC, I think) lust after black men intensely. I have been shot down in bars by hot guys who wanted a hot black guy, and wasn’t attracted to white guys.
Denzel, Will, and Wesley are all handsome, desirable men, but that inner fire just doesn’t catch for me. I also don’t like skinny guys, young guys, or smooth guys. I like big, burly, hairy-chested muscle bears, with a strong preference for blondes. Sue me.
The woman in the post that inspired the OP was repelled at even seeing a movie that starred a black man. That’s messed up and racist. Having a strong sexual preference for one ethnicity over another isn’t.
I wouldn’t do Brad Pitt under any circumstances cause I don’t find him attractive.
Now Dawyne Johnson (The Rock) is 1/2 black and 1/2 Samoan, and I would do him ‘til he was bowlegged and crosseyed. It’s the look, not the ethnic origin, that gets my wood a poppin’.
Well, there’s my friend’s brother. He doesn’t have a hairy chest, but he’s not finished with puberty yet so you never know. Maybe in a few years.
Of course, this does depend on how you define “black”. If my friend’s brother looks white (and by anyone’s standards he does), some people would say that he is white. But his sister (my friend) doesn’t look white, and it says “black” on his birth certificate, and if he had been born a generation ago he would have been breaking the law if he’d tried to pass himself off as white.
Now, if someone has a personal preference for light skin, then that’s one thing. But while the word “black” certainly seems like it should refer only to very dark-skinned people, the term as it is commonly used in the US includes many people who are quite light-skinned and excludes many who are quite dark-skinned (I know a Sri Lankan woman who is darker than plenty of African-Americans, but she’s not “black”). So as auntie em said, it’s probably best to phrase skin-tone preferences simply as skin-tone preferences.
not the best GD vocab either 
i did my post in a hurry and didn’t throw in any of my vocab words… you’ll notice a few mispells because i didn’t proof read it either 
Anyway, i just wanted to get that cleared up, and now that it is i’m happy.
back to lurking!!
You know what, though…? The OP is right in, well, implying, at least, that people are very quick to make racism accusations, no matter HOW carefully one might word things.
Case in point: Way back in my 20s, I was having lunch alone in a neighborhood pub. I was approached by a (White, blond, blue-eyed) guy who asked if he could join me. He seemed friendly and safe enough, and we were in a public place, so I said sure.
Polite conversation ensued, and a happy time was had by all.
As we parted ways after the meal, he wondered if he might take me out sometime. I politely declined, repeatedly, but he kept pushing, wanting to know WHY I wasn’t interested. Well. The reasons were many (and mounting, as he got more and more obnoxious), but out of frustration, I finally just said that I preferred my men a little darker (this was the truth–granted, I’ve got a thing for Greg Allman, and have certainly dated outside my physical “type” but overall, I tend to be attracted to brown boys–of varying ethnicities–with dark and curly accoutrements).
Honey. Such epithets had never been hurled my way. Suddenly I was a “Fucking Racist Bitch”, and he was speeding off in his car, hurling F-word epithets back in my direction.
Truthfully, blond hair and blue eyes are certainly not a deal-breaker for me, and I might have agreed to dinner with him if he hadn’t been such a freak…
…hmmm, maybe THAT’s what I should have said, instead. :rolleyes:
Just an hour ago, me and two of my friends (they were white) had no classes for two hours so they wanted to go to downtown Halifax. After dragging me to a few of those comic book stores and what-not we all went into a video game store.
So when they were playing something on the X-box and I was watching, two people came in and started to play GTA3 beside me and I started to keep an eye on their game also. One of them was picking fights on the street with passing people, and after awhile he would call them names (kid=brat, cop=pig).
When the guy playing fought with a black guy his friend watching said: “Ha, look at that nigger!” then he turned and saw me. I gave him a “pardon me” look and he gave a “er…um…” look back then focused on the game trying not to look beside him.
Thinking back I am happy I embarassed this guy by just being there.
I would argue that the statement in question is undeniably racist. Why? Well there are several reasons. Of course, the context in which it immediatly occured was obviously racist. She was not stating a preference but rather discounting one entire “race” (a term I hesitate to use anyways because of its ambiguity and unscientific background) because of the way they look. But besides that, I still stand that the statement is always racist. This is because an individual who is making this claim is not even basing their decision on what is attractive or not on an individual basis, but on a enormously diverse group of people. They are generally not refering to people with darker skin, but rather, specifially focusing on individuals of African descent, claiming to find their physical characteristics undesirable. There are African Americans who are virtually indistinguishable from Americans of Southern European or Latin American descent. Their opinions that such people (the African-Americans) as unattractive are based in our societies’ historical portrayal of traditionally African-American characteristics as undesirable. My point is this: An individual who says that “Black guys are SO unattractive” is merely grouping people together by a stereotyped view that he or she may have about the group. There is also a difference between saying someone/a group of people are unattractive and saying that you are just not attracted to them. By saying (or inteding to say) that you merely find someone unattractive is A LOT different from saying that a person(or group of people) are universally unattractive. For example, I may not find shorter guys particularly attractive, but damn! Tom Cruise looks good
Maybe some of you people are reading too much into the statement, ever think of that?
It’s perfectly reasonable for a person to express their preferences through such a statement; it IS their opinion after all. To label someone as being racist just because of a possibly harmless statement is totally wrong in my opinion.
Heck, I don’t find black people attractive. That’s just my preference; I have no quarrels with them. To me, they’re just people walking down the street. Am I racist because of my preference in race for a possible mate? I sure hope not.
Saying, “I find black guys unattractive” is like saying, “I don’t like peanuts.” Yay, that’s my opinion, hopefully the Peanut Farmers Association of America won’t come a’knockin at my door calling me a bigot. 
But if you said “peanuts are inedible” or “peanuts are poisonous” (i.e. an obective assertion, then maybe they would come knocking. But everybody seems to be in agreement about that.
I find that my tastes mature as I do. When I was younger, I wasn’t very attracted to black men. I always, however, went out of my way to note that this was not a blanket condemnation of the looks of men of African descent. Rather it was along the lines of “In proportion to the entire population of males of a particular geographic ancestry, I find a very large percentage of Asians attractive, a slightly smaller percentage of Europeans attractive, and a much smaller percentage of black men attractive”.
As I get older, however, I find myself much more attracted to black men, so that the numbers tend to be much closer to even between the three categories above. I also find the high end of my “desirable age range” creeping upward. But that’s another thread entirely…
jayjay
BLACK MEN ARE THE FINEST PEOPLE EVER TO GRACE THE EARTH!!
[sub]I’m just trying to counteract the ugliness of the thread title.[/sub]
As a straight, caucasion male, even I can see that Taye Diggs, Henry Simmons, Derek Jeter, and others are attractive. My lovely wife will tell you that Morgan Freeman is the second sexiest man alive.
There is one ethnicity of females that, as a whole, I usually don’t find as attractive as many people, but there are any number of examples in that group which would have had me drooling back in my single days. I’d find it disconcerting if someone completely ruled out every member of a group without exception, just as it would bother me if someone stuck solely to a single group, but I wouldn’t sweat it too much, as it’s their loss.
If people make distinctions on a qualitative aspect of an individual based on their “race”, then they are racist pure and simple. It is a well known fact that attractive or good looking people are far more likely to be successful in their careers, sad to say, but thats the way it is. If you believe that black people are unattractive, you are less likely to hire one as a host/hostess for your restaurant aren’t you.
I don’t believe we need to moralize about this however. One should be judged on their actions, not their thoughts.
Yes, “Black guys are SO unattractive!” (I have a hard time believeing this wasn’t said in irony) may be racist, but then “Bald guys are SO unattractive” would have to be an equally despicable opinion.
Just because a race is mentioned does not mean that racism is involved. I also think that it goes without saying that in the matter of physical appearance that it is not meant to say the subject group as a whole and with no exception is un/attractive. Nor do I think that anyone expresses physical preferences with the idea that they are an absolute, they know it is just their opinion and can generally respect the preferneces of others.