What are they supposed to do, wear sweater-vests and bowlers, and play tubas loudly? Then that’ll be the new stereotype everyone’ll be complaining about!
I dunno. I wouldn’t complain if bowlers made a comeback. But the sweater vests and loud tubas would get irritating.
Just for the record, I was unaware those were called docksiders, too. Since you know so much about them, monstro, maybe you’re whiter than me!
Sinful, you have stepped into a PC mine field. Retrace your steps and pack out slowly.
You’re describing people (IMO) that wish to be identified culturally as black. It’s a club, you’re not invited.
On a different note, greens are a poor substitute for mayo in chicken salad.
On a 2nd different note, some of my best friends are nerds.
How did this get side-tracked in a discussion of whitie stereotypes?
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You notice people who fulfill cultural stereotypes.
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As a primarily European descendant American in a quite liberal North Eastern city, I can tell you acting AGAINST your cultural stereotype can be HELL. Fun, and much more interesting than perpetuating it, but HELL with your peers.
Now, for the poll:
- False
- Hell, no
- True (a long story)
- Not as much as original Motown
- Don’t you make me move my neck
- Does kale or dandelion greens count?
- Guilty; I do not respect those who are slaves to fashion.
- No, and I fought hard not to. Real estate do NOT just red-line non-Europeans. What I went through just to be shown some houses …
- There is no middle class, only workers and owners. I have been a lucky worker, so far, though
- Only aquaintances, but I call so few people ‘friend’ that we do not have a statistically significant sample.
- Isn’t that some hair stuff? Let’s not discuss my hair.
- No, I am a geek.
I would like to speak up for the poor, maligned collard green. Yeah, it’s indigestible cow food even when it’s been cooked for a week, but when it has been prepared well I am willing to scrub my colon with it because it tastes so GOOD!
And I have often worn a bandanna in public, sometimes as a do-rag (knot in back, pirate style, not knot in front, Aunt Jemima style) though my wife refuses to be seen with me unless it is worn as a simple headband. My forehead sweats.
I have worn docksiders and find them comfortable but it’s hard to keep the edge of the soles Wonder Bread white.
And I am a dreadful dancer. I am listening to some Blind Blake right now, being too old to appreciate rap and my wife’s asleep so I can’t crank the Black Sabbath.
So, am I white or black? (I suppose listening to Blues music gave it away, though.)
Clearly you are a white trying to be black, dropzone.
I’m a WIGGER?!?!?
I had a girlfriend who used to grow and then cook her greens. Her stomach was messed up for days afterwards. I blame the iron. But then, I am an idiot.
But for every person you see that fufills a sterotype, don’t you miss one that does not fill it?
Actually, I’d be willing to bet he does. Because, see, that’s why he can make this and NOT be a racist-because he has black friends.
Maybe white people are collard green-intolerant.
That’s why they are usually raggedy. Personally, I think they look better that way.
What exactly are collard greens? Is it like a type of lettuce?
-I bet you can’t dance very well.
Does “The Robot”, “The Funcky Chicken” or “The Macarena” count as dancing?
-I bet you own a pair of raggedy docksiders and khaki cutoffs.
I need to wear something yachting. I can’t wear Birkenstocks, suede bucks or white running shoes everywhere, can I?
-I bet you’ve worn the combination of the above during the cold of winter.
If it’s too warm warm for my North Face ski jacket and LL Bean sweaters.
-I bet you either really love heavy metal or country music.
No…I listen to Dave Mathews, U2, classic stuff. So much for your white stereotype.
-I bet you like mayonaisse.
Do you mean plain right out of the jug or mixed with tunafish?
-I bet a collard green has never touched your lips.
I don’t know. How do I know if they have been ‘collard’.
-I bet you look your nose down on people who wear big baggy jeans and bandanas tied around their head.
I have nothing against Abercrombie & Fitch
-I bet you live in the suburbs.
What am I? My parents? I live in a trendy city neighborhood like most single white people.
-I bet you live in a middle class household.
Excuse me. I didn’t grow up in “da Hood”. We didn’t have fancy Bentleys or wear gold chains or drink Courvoisier.
-I bet you don’t have any black friends.
I would if I grew up, went to school, or worked with any
-I bet you don’t know what “Dark-n-Lovely” is or what it does or how it smells.
:rolleyes: Of course I do. I’ve been to Hagaan Dazs.
-I bet you’re a big nerd like all white people.
If by “big nerd” you mean educated and not on crack then yes.
Say, Monstro we’re just having fun rather than gettin into some damned racial BS thread.
That “whitey” check list was cool…even though I missed most of the points.
How 'bout makin another one and let me see how “black” I am?
Oddly enough, most of those stereotypes fit me rather well (I do dance well thanks to some classes, I’m not much hung up on the cholith choices of others, and due to TV I now what “Dark-n-Lovely” is.). The funny thing is that I don’t see all that much “living stereotypes” among the black folk I know. Yes, there are a few on my bus ride to work, but they’re youngfellas, and one expects a youngfella to be pretty expressive.
I didn’t know what the word “docksiders” referred to, either. I always just thought those were cheap, ugly loafers. Never had a pair. I guess I’m not a stereotypical white person. (Not that I have ever seen a white person - or a person of any colour - wearing cutoffs in winter. Who does that??)
I also hate sandals. Not that that’s on topic, but while I was on the subject of white people footwear I dislike I figured I’d throw that in.
Istara.
What is this “desert slum” business. I’ve always thought you were one of the “Jameera Janes” down there. 
Regards
Testy
Ummm, a combination of monstro’s and my fault??? (sheepish grin).
I thought monstro’s somewhat tongue in cheek questionaire was kind of interesting so I answered it for fun. It seems others followed suit.
IMHO, the fact that that happened is sort of a positive commentary that “black stereotypes” isn’t all that volatile or interesting a subject??
Hmmmmm, okay, then what causes so many young whites, eskimos and other natives to dress in the same manner in my neck of the woods?
Surely natives and whites aren’t trying to “not be percieved as ‘too’ white”???
imho? It’s just kids trying to be “individuals” and perhaps “shock” their parents and other adults. Little do they know that not only am I not “shocked,” I nearly pee my pants laughing every time I see those “full toddler diaper” looking baggie jeans.
You’re likely WAY more informed than I am on this part of it. We don’t have any “black colleges” and like I’ve stated, in my neighborhood, a well-to-do one, (except our house, it’s the POOR “rich folks” house), it’s the white kids that drape themselves in the “thug” look and attitude.
A few white comics have put that into their act, along with the stereotype that we like wonder bread (is there ANYONE on the planet that isn’t aware these days that “the whiter the bread, the sooner you’re dead”?? :D).
This is amusing and all, but the reality is that the reply by MLS is spot on, all of the music and clothing and assorted bling are merely passing trends, designed to bilk the already cash strapped wanna-be player out of money he or she cannot afford to spend, on things he or she doesn’t need.
The stereotypes are a false reality, worse yet, is that they were created not by an ‘opposing’ culture, but within their own culture. The rich black man, keeps the poor one down (if I may be so un-PC) by going on TV, and telling him he needs a $90 Sean John Shirt, and $100 Timberland Boots, and $120 FuBu Jeans, and enough gold to tie up a battleship. He needs to drink Cristal, wear a Rolex, roll in a Bentley, and carry a glock. Meanwhile, he’s having a hard time keeping up the rent at his mothers house, and the mother of his child is forced to take state aid.
Monstro, I would take issue with your idea that white people generally speaking, create or perpetuate black stereotypes. I think black stereotypes are created by black people, and perpetuated by black people, for the benefit of the few, at the expense of the many. Justin Timberlake doesn’t give a half a damn about me, and P. Diddy doesn’t give a half a damn about you, unless we are looking to make their pockets fatter.
If people who are, let us say, downtrodden, spent the money they DID make on improving themselves and their neighborhoods and educating themselves to the reality that surrounds them, people and corporations like P Diddy, NASCAR, Tommy Hilfiger and Saint Ides Brewing Company would be scrambling for their bankruptcy attorneys. And, as a value added, there may well be less crime, less poverty, and less violence, such an idealist I am :rolleyes:.
“If blacks and whites didn’t argue the most, they’d clearly see the government is screwing them both”
-Kris Parker
Apologies to the brakes I may have applied here, but I just felt like dropping a bit of knowledge was the thing to do.