Ok that’s fine, go ahead and keep pretending like you don’t understand the issue, and exactly what you are doing when you purposely refer to a group with a name that they don’t approve of. You won’t have too many intelligent discussions resulting from that, but something tells me that’s not much of an issue for those that insist on this pettiness either. When you start out with school yard taunting, you’re pretty much ruling out any civilized interaction at that point. Again, that’s probably not much of a deterrent for those kinds of people I’d guess.
What, you couldn’t find that grammar rule that you claimed existed? Sour grapes.
Labour? Tory?
I should have said, should not be used as an adjective, not cannot. People can use words however they like, regardless of how ignorant they sound. That is your right. I reserve the right to judge those individuals as ignorant, as is my right.
Aren’t democratic principals great? Or should I say democrat principals? Which of those sounds better? Which sounds really awkward? Why is it different when referring to other people?
All you’re doing is outing yourself as an irrational partisan. If you’re ok with that, then I am too.
Like calling Southerners “ignorant backwater”. I know right!
Btw - ive never used the gramatical construction in question and think it common courtesy to respect the wishes of a group to self identify. I dont think it’s a big deal either.
Principles sounds better. It must be some kind of a rule that people who complain about grammar can’t spell.
Hell, I don’t know if I’ve ever even heard it before today. I just thought it was funny that someone was trying to say it was technically incorrect, as if dozens of other parties don’t actaully use nouns in their name.
Way to stay on topic there chief.
I’ll take your lack of a response to the content of what I’ve said as tacit agreement with my point.
You say that people who write “Democrat party” sound ignorant. What about people who write “principals” instead of “principles”?
Well those two words sound exactly the same so they wouldn’t ‘sound’ ignorant would they? Democrat party sounds ignorant because it is an awkward construction. There is an adjective form of the word that you can use when it needs to be an adjective. You are refusing to use the adjective form as way of sticking it to those you disagree with. How you see these two things as anywhere close to being related is beyond me.
Look, you are nitpicking a common typo because you have no actual response to what I’ve said. I will hold this opinion until you actually respond to the content of my post.
One of my favorite maxims is by the Perfect Master himself: little things cause little problems. Big things cause big problems. It’s not like you’re either “ignorant” or “not ignorant”. While using the correct homophone is preferable, it doesn’t make one as ignorant-seeming as needlessly using an attributive noun to incorrectly identify an organization.
What, you gave up your claim that it is not grammatically correct?
Yep. And there is “Senate” and “Senatorial”. And yet it is “Senate floor”, and “Senate vote”.
Try to stay up to date on the thread, I clarified that a while back.
I’ll try this again without the typo so maybe you’ll actually respond this time:
Aren’t democratic principles great? Or should I say democrat principles? Which of those sounds better? Which sounds really awkward? Why is it different when referring to other people?
Also, regardless of any of this, Democrats refer to their party as the Democratic Party. Your insisting on ignoring that and purposely using a different term is poisonous to civil discussion. How would the Republicans react if Democrats insisted on calling them the Republic Party? What happens to discourse when both sides refuse to even acknowledge how the other side wishes to be addressed? When you start from a place of complete disrespect, how do you expect to be respected in return?
You clarified that using “Democrat Party” is grammatically correct? Can you point to the post where you did that?
See, that’s a good example. “Democratic principles” refers to democracy. “Democrat principles” refers to Democrats. So - depending on your meaning you would use one or the other.
See this:
http://www.mrc.org/articles/march-…-nets-dont-use-life-abortion-debate
then remove the beam from your eye.
Post #84
Maybe try reading the posts of the person you’re arguing with rather than just trying to score some Internet points over a typo that isn’t at all related to the topic being discussed.
So then you do refuse to acknowledge how others wish to be addressed. At least own that and stop trying to act like you aren’t using this childish tactic deliberately to disrespect your opponents.
Also, what the hell does that link have to do with this particular discussion. I’ve never been involved in any abortion threads here. Why am I being asked to respond to an article that is unrelated to anything I’ve said and how does that link imply that I have a beam in my eye?
Actually now that I’m thinking about it maybe some censorship is in the works.
Let me call up my Jew lawyer and ask him his opinion.
Once he stopped guffawing at me like I stepped out of the 1950s, he asked me what his religion had to do with his profession. I said “never mind that, I just made you up to make a point about attributive nouns. Which phrase do you think sounds more ignorant ‘Democrat Party’ or ‘Democratic Party’? Come to think of it, which phrase would sound less ignorant, ‘At the supermarket, there was this retard in the line in front of me’ or 'At the supermarket, there was a person with mental retardation in the line in front of me”?.
I can’t really tell you what he answered, because my Jew lawyer doesn’t exist. But i’ll give you a hint: the preferred phrase is not the one that reduces a person to nothing more than one of his or her attributes, rather than implying that it is but one aspect of their being.
Post #84 didn’t say it was grammatically correct. So - to clarify - is it or is it not grammatically correct to use “Democrat” as an adjective?
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Uh hu. So - is it “my Democrat cousin” or “my Democratic cousin”?
It may not violate a rule, but it sounds like a grammatical version of nails on a chalkboard. But I think you know that, which is why you insist on using it.
You should really let it go. I clarified what I meant, and I gave you the post number for the clarification, which everyone in this thread has seen, so you should accept the clarified version and stop trying to get me clarify the original version again. Besides, this little nit you’re picking is not winning you any points in this discussion.
You are insisting on being disrespectful. You are certainly within your rights to do so, but you should at least be honest about what you’re doing and why you are doing it.
Regarding red or blue states, I think you have to one of the few who consider senate seats to be the determining factor in defining a state’s “color”.
Iowa elected Nixon in 68 so it all evens out.