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Name one thing legal a person can do that would have any effect on Dubya, a president not up for re-election.
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I said affect the government. Bush is not the government.
Look, you can boo the president all you want, and I can think you’re childish for doing so all I want. There really isn’t anything to debate here.
What would have been really awesome is if, instead of booing him, the entire crowd had stood up and left the stadium.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
I said affect the government. Bush is not the government.
Look, you can boo the president all you want, and I can think you’re childish for doing so all I want. There really isn’t anything to debate here.
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Funny that you’re arguing about it, then. This is pointless, and childish, but picketing outside the White House, boy, that’ll show 'em!.
How long has that “no nukes” guy been sitting in his booth outside the White House?
-Joe
[QUOTE=John Mace]
I said affect the government. Bush is not the government.
Look, you can boo the president all you want, and I can think you’re childish for doing so all I want. There really isn’t anything to debate here.
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The govt. isn’t the problem, Bush the individual, is the problem.
I will never understand this sentiment… that for some whatever reason we owe it to him to be nice? WHY?
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]
I will never understand this sentiment… that for some whatever reason we owe it to him to be nice? WHY?
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Ask Clothahump. snort
-Joe
Millions of people would be happy to boo him while he’s being a dick, but the problem is that those people never have access to him except at a baseball game.
Because he keeps everyone away from him who isn’t proven to be a fan. As has already been stated multiple times.
So yeah, boo him when you get the chance.
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF]
I will never understand this sentiment… that for some whatever reason we owe it to him to be nice? WHY?
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Because he’s the President and no matter what, he deserves your love and respect. Or some bullshit like that, I’m not sure.
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
I still think booing Bush under these circumstances was appropriate, I was merely acknowledging the other side of the argument. The concern would not apply to a PM, who is a head of government, not a head of state with all the symbolic baggage that carries; but the POTUS is both at once.
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George Bush was exercising a ceremonial function as head of state, not a political function as head of government, or acting as a private citizen. That being said if I were ever in a situtation to meet him (or at least be in the same room as him) I think my utter hatred and contempt for Citizen Bush would overwhelm the respect I have for the Presidency and nation as a whole.
Why didn’t the National’s management pump enough recorded cheering through the PA system to drown out the boos?
I say the people paid their money, and can therefore boo to their hearts content.
They boo’d him? So what? I wouldn’t care if somebody’d shot him. (So long as it was an american who did it, that is. Anybody else and there’d be trouble asa result of it.)
Booing Bush was fine, the same way it was fine when Clinton caught flack at the Vietnam Wall.
It comes with the territory in a nation that believes in free speech, and where we have no kings (though we might have a few political dynasties).
[QUOTE=vison]
…Born on third base and he thinks he hit a triple…
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This is an excellent phrase- mind if I steal it?
[QUOTE=appleciders]
This is an excellent phrase- mind if I steal it?
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It comes from Molly Ivins (RIP) I believe, who also coined him “Shrub.”
BTW, Bush skipped the National’s opener in 2006 and 2007. I wonder why?
Also, the last person on earth any of us should feel sorry for is George W Bush.
Bush would surely have gotten a warmer reception if only the stadium had thought to offer each adult fan a free bottle of beer.
We Washingtonians don’t get representatives in congress, so you have to at least let us boo the president when he comes to our ballpark.
There are about 4000 American families and over half a million Iraqi families who wish the worst thing that could happen to them is getting booed in a stadium. Thank God that’s his last baseball opener.
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
Nevertheless, the head of state is considered the embodiment of the state.
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Not by me, he isn’t.
Indeed, so far as I am concerned, the idea that the United States qua state is embodied in any individual is unsupported by the Constitution.
C’mon guys, it was wrong of the crowd to boo Bush at the opener.
At the very LEAST tar and feathers should have been in use.