Same goes for Bloodlines 2 and quite a few other big ticket Epic items. Not sure why they’re pulling out exactly - apparently Epic is doing the sale out of their own cut rather than what the publishers receive. I mean it’s pretty tacky to have sales on fucking pre-orders, but then it’s also pretty tacky to sell out exclusivity so I’m not sure what the rationale is.
It’s because Epic gave no ability to opt out and it’s eroding the value perception of their game. Think of why almost every mobile game has to have a freemium model because of the incredible mental resistance to spending even a couple bucks on a new mobile game.
Good Twitter thread about it:
Right. If players see that a game was once sold for $30, even for a short time, they’ll never pay $60 for it.
And there’s been a push over the last few years to increase the price of new games - AAA games used to launch at £40 and are now launching at £50. Giving people £10 off undermines that pricing strategy. Whether you agree with that pricing or not (I don’t pay £40 for games, never mind £50) it should be up to the dev/pub and not a third party without consultation, especially on pre orders!
I see. Thanks for the edumacation ! Je me coucherai moins con ce soir, which is always something to aspire to.
I don’t really even have anything to say about this other than Epic seems to have a pathological need to piss everyone off
Considering that I’m the subject of a (weeeeeaaksaaauuce) pit thread due to my posts in this thread and the other related one, I will say that at this point I’ll agree that Epic is doing a fantastic job of stepping on their dick.
Ain’t MAD at them, but yeah.
heh look at a games review on the app its "why do i have to buy gems diamonds coins ect to recharge faster … can’t it just be free? " the minute they have to charge for something …
i think i read a thing a while back that said the guy whos in charge of the app store said they should of never let a free to play game on it … let alone something ad based or "freeiumin " like we have now …
Personally I tend to gravitate toward “pay for a game once then never again” type apps. In my experience they’re better quality and less annoying. Freemium games usually slip in hidden paywalls and base gameplay around trying to hook you then milk you by making you frustrated, then dangling relief in front of your nose while making a “gimme” sign with their other hand.
Games you pay for up-front don’t need to do that. They have your cash already so let you have fun.
So…
I suck at Borderlands 2 now it seems.
I started the new DLC that is a bridge to the B3 story. I pulled the DLC, and loaded up the game for the first time in years. I looked at my characters, looked at my equipment, looked at my inventory and skills trees and remembered maybe 10% of what the hell any of it was. Jumping into the DLC in Ultimate mode went about as well as you would expect, utter suckitude. 
If memory serves, you can downgrade your current mode on the player selection menu.
Playing TVHM with an UVHM character is much worse. Everything is a only hit kill, if you even bother to shoot back instead of just strolling through imperviously.
Slowly getting a bit closer to speed, but still dying an embarrassing amount of the time.
I did find an effervescent weapon, an incendiary sub-machine gun, 
Hmm, it looks like the Epic Exclusivity period is almost up. Strangely I am just not that excited anymore. For what is a follow up to one of my favorite games ever, that I waited for for 10 years. I am just completely meh now. After the launch, it seems like the hype died almost immediately, and was forgotten very quickly. I have some major issues with the Developer’s business practices, but more that that I am just not at all excited about the game. Seems so weird with hindsight ,but I’ll probably wait for a major sale at this point.
I wonder if there will be a Steam front page advert push once it is available, to try and get the hype back.
Epic has turned into the place I check once a week for their free game, but I wouldn’t buy anything from them - their store remains appalling.
I’ve seen significant sales for Borderlands 3 recently (currently 55% off at Fanatical), yet - like wolfman, I just can’t get excited about it. I really loved the first two Borderlands (plus expansions), and had many hours of hilariously-fun co-op play, so I was excited about 3’s release…except it was on the Epic platform only.
I don’t fault them for wanting to keep as much of their sales $$ as possible and not paying commissions to platforms like Steam. But that decision, and the “pretty good but not great” reviews (see below), has cooled much of the passion I had for the game. And I certainly won’t be paying more than 70% of list price.
I’ve been playing it for a few weeks and loving it. I played 2 and the Pre-Sequel, and enjoyed them both. The game play is mostly the same, and where it’s different, it’s better. Picking up loot is easier than it was (it’s does a better job picking up ammo that’s behind another ammo type that you’re full up on, if you know what I’m saying), and the weapons are fantastic. I find the battles to be more fun, with the shooting somehow seeming more impactful (even though I’m using a mouse and keyboard, so I’m not getting tactile feedback) – with a big gun, you really feel like you’re blowing them away. The whole game is just better, and the writing seems to be just as good.
There is one annoying bug that was introduced with one of the updates, and I hope they clear that up soon. There’s a simple enough work-around, but still, if they know when they screwed it up, they should know how to fix it.
Anyway, I give it two thumbs up.
I think the writing is complete trash compared to BL2. Jack is just soooo much more compelling than the twins.
The action is good though, sure. I’m pretty much done with the game though unless some significant endgame content comes out. Raising the level cap by 3 is just enough to make my gear suck, but doesn’t make any of the farming any more interesting and made the last couple month seem worthless.
Handsome Jack was so great, one of the best villains I’ve ever encountered in a game. Because he’s so likeable and hateable at the same time. He cracked me up with a lot of his dialogue while saying and doing totally detestable things. Kind of like a less corny, more sane version of Batman’s Joker.
The twins are… Meh. I just don’t care about them. They’re evil and I need to defeat them, I get that. They do bad stuff, they deserve to be shot in the head. Aside from that I don’t see much that’s compelling about them. They have zero charisma, I don’t remember any clever dialogue, they aren’t menacing at all, etc. I get that they are a satirical take on the evils of social media but they’re just not done well.
The overall story and characters are good, I think. They hold up well. I’ve mainly been playing as Zane and his dialogue is great, I even find myself quoting him now and then.
Yeah the game is fun to play. As a loot shooter it’s top notch and there is a lot of variety with builds, characters, and gear. My build with Zane is my favorite experience with the series so far (and I’ve played all 3 previous entries).
It’s launching on Steam March 13 at a 50% sale, which is unusual…and intriguing. I will probably pull the trigger.