Glass, houses, stones. You know the drill.
Ohh shiny
Camilla?
Does it have to do with the horses thing, or what?
Since I appear to be addressing someone who did not master second grade English, I will break it down into short declarative sentences:
You made a stupid claim.
You said that high taxes made people stop working to earn money.
When the U.S. had the 91% rate*, people tried to make enough money to pay that tax.
Your claim is bullshit.
Beyond that, your claim was dishonest.
You tried to use the extreme when talking about the center.
Your claim about the extreme was false.
We can, therefore, dismiss your false claim about the mean, mode, and median.
You are a doodyhead.
- And I have agreed that the 91% was too high–it still did not prevent people from trying to earn that much money.
Hey, I was speaking in tones of the purest admiration! That sentence is stupendous in its scope and majesty, it swoops and soars like a great bird, it rocs!
And here I thought that weed was illegal in the great state of Minnesota. If you had the manners of a whore, you’d at least share.
Bless her heart, she means well!
Trying to gloss over the fact that your point was sort of pointless?
What, that IMO the US is no longer a strong nation? I don’t consider that pointless. I don’t need a list of strong nations (which list, BTW, was distinctly tongue-in-cheek) to back that up - it’s entirely possible that no such nation exists anymore.
Well, I can dream…
Hey, I was speaking in tones of the purest admiration! That sentence is stupendous in its scope and majesty, it swoops and soars like a great bird, it rocs!
For the good of everyone, you must die.
I’ve never heard you make a coherent argument FOR socialism. If you have one, let’s hear it.
And if you use the word “proletariat”, you lose.
No, I do not lose for that reason. Nevertheless, see posts #114 and #200 in this thread; the word “proletariat” (rather an archaic concept at this stage of economic development, IMO) appears nowhere in either, but you can still get the point. (You won’t, of course, because you are a hopeless and impenetrable asstard as all the Dope knows, but any reasonable person will.)
I’m sure he would be very happy with high taxes rates. But is he willing to pay those same taxes himself, or do they only apply to other people? That is my question.
I have always paid all taxes required by law, “willing” or no, even during periods, e.g., the Reagan years, when I knew perfectly well that those dollars could be invested with more net social benefit in the contract murder division of the Medellin cocaine cartel.
In broader terms (broader, that is, than you are capable of comprehending), the question depends on my own income level in the year in question. If I were earnng a lot of money, I would be willing to pay a lot of taxes (on the assumption that they were going to fund things I really do believe in).
Taxing the successful, at some point, becomes a disincentive for them to earn more.
The very successful’s “earnings,” at some point, have no real value and much great detriment to society. And we reached that point at some time in the 1980s if not earlier.
That last sentence could kill Chuck Norris.
NOTHING CAN KILL CHUCK NORRIS
Fucko off, Camilla.
I see the perspicacity of your rebuttal is up to its usual standards.
I see the perspicacity of your rebuttal is up to its usual standards.
matches her debating skills nicely.
We already recognize that property has limitations, laws abound for all those limitations, from larger matters like ultimate domain down to the trivial vexations of zoning. We don’t permit someone to abuse their property rights to our detriment.
There are those who consider such limitations tyranny. Don’t expect to to sway them with reasoning based upon the socialist regard for the common good.
There is no difference between property rights and human rights. Humans own themselves.
Ah! Wearing our pithy helmet, are we, tilted at a rakish angle? Good. And, of course, you’re correct, in that all such rights are human, few of us would extend them to rocks and trees. The argument is not whether such rights exist, they do, because we say so, it is a statement of faith on our part, holding them to be “self-evident”. The argument is more about the primacy, the relative value of these rights.
Some of us seem to hold an unreasonable attachment to property rights, we seem to thnk that a two year old seizing a toy fire truck and screaming “Mine!” is expressing some essential quality of humanity, others would suggest he’s being a little snot and is in need of correction. I lean towards the latter camp, YMMV. Rather certain that it does.
Okay here’s what I don’t get.
If I have $400 dollars for the month and uncle sam takes $100 that’s going to have a fairly drastic effect on my quality of life. It’ll affect how well I eat. Whether or not I have gas money, or even a car. At that rate prolly not. God help me if I have an uninsured medical condition. Rent could take most of it anyway.
Now if I have $4,000 and the government takes $1,000 it’ll still seem like alot but things like healthcare, rent/mortgage, car, car insurance, food, luxuries, retirement savings ect. are alot more affordable.
So how come it’s the $4,000+ group that complains more?
NOTHING CAN KILL CHUCK NORRIS
Except Samuel L. Jackson.
If I didn’t abhor violence in any form, that would be totally cool. To see Chucky actually eyeballed to death! Awesome!

