Breaking Bad 5.01 "Live Free or Die" 7/15/12

It was a joke guys. Work with me here.

Besides, it was a fake hundred. He is branching out :slight_smile:

And I got DISH, so it looks I am gonna be boned here shortly :frowning:

Yes! Thank you…I thought that’s what he said.

I’d like to know how Walt made a large “52” out of three pieces of bacon broken in half. By my calcs, the least amount would have to be five strips. Hah! Explain that, if you can, smart guys!

Walt and Jesse dissolved him in acid, just like the bathtub guy (I forget which was Emilio and which was Crazy 8). It occurs off-screen but Jesse mentions it when he tells Walt why he’s putting the house up for sale. He says something like, We flushed two guys down the toilet, so I can’t even take a dump in peace.

Presumably, after the drama of the bathtub, showing Walt and Jesse stewing up dead guys in a plastic bin from Wal-Mart would have been anticlimactic.

So what is Walt’s body count now?

He killed the dealer with a bicycle lock in the first season, the two street dealers who killed Jesse’s girlfriend’s brother, and two of Gus’s henchmen, so he’s killed 5 men with his own hands.

He orchestrated the deaths of Gus, Tyrus, and I suppose Tio (though that was more assisted suicide)- would that be 2nd degree murder or conspiracy?

I think Saul could get the nursing home deaths dismissed for lack of evidence (because the evidence was blown up), and the first kill could be thrown out as self-defense, but the other four would be enough to get him life in prison before anything to do with meth was even mentioned.

He killed Emilio with phosphine gas and Krazy 8 with the bike lock. He also inadvertently killed Jane by moving her on to her back and then watching her choke to death. He’s also directly responsible for putting Combo on that street corner, though that’s a moral culpability, not a legal one. Same with the passengers killed by Jane’s dad.

I’m not so sure that you can blame him for the passengers. With Combo he understood the dangers that street dealers faced so he has some culpability. There’s no way he could have foreseen that Jane’s death would lead to an air disaster.

It’s Gale Boetticher. Not Gail Bettiker.

It wasn’t inadvertent. He deliberately did not act to save her when he saw she was choking.

davidm, fair enough.
Walt’s death toll:

Direct:

Emilio
Krazy 8
Jane
Dealer 1 - hit by Walt’s Aztec
Dealer 2 - shot in head by Walt
Gale Boetticher (ordered his execution)
Gus
Tyrus
Meth lab employee 1
Meth lab employee 2

Indirect:
Combo

If you’re including indirect deaths, there’s a jet full of them.

There’s also Emilio who never recovered from getting gassed and wound up getting dissolved in a bathtub.

I would also include Jane though I understand that many will debate this point. His actions caused her to roll onto her back and he did nothing when she began choking.

And Gale Boetticher: Didn’t pull the trigger but ordered the murder so it’s at least conspiracy.

It worked… because Walt said so. :stuck_out_tongue: PC Magazine has an article on the efficacy of turning a junkyard electromagnet into a remote degausser.

Wasn’t there a character crushed to death in a junkyard in the first season? Who was that?

That was one of Tuco’s henchmen, a car fell on him I think. I’ve forgotten if Walt was directly responsible.

That’s too attenuated even to be indirect. Walt didn’t arrange for John DeLancie to crash the plane. There are too many independent voluntary intervening acts to say that Walt was responsible for it.

I’d strongly suggest we don’t go down the “did he or didn’t he kill Jane on purpose” road or we’re not likely to get back to a discussion on the current episode.

I say this in the nicest possibly way. This debate has derailed enough other threads over the years.

The only reason it was on the show was to demonstrate the fallout of Walter’s chosen path. None of that could have happened without him.

It’s not a question of whether it was on purpose, because it’s very clear that his intention was to let her die. The question people debate is whether he could be considered responsible for her death by failing to act (and some will also argue that he caused her to roll onto her back, making him an agent in the act and not just a bystander). I say that doesn’t count as him killing her, but yeah, I agree, let’s not go down that road.

He wasn’t.

The henchman was crushed trying to move the body of another of Tuco’s henchment that Tuco beat to death for no reason in a psychotic rage.

Though you could say Tuco’s rage was fueled by the extra-good meth he’d just taken … but that goes too far I think. :wink:

Thanks! I missed that reference.

There goes my hope that his body would be found in this series, causing all sorts of trouble. :wink: