Bricker
September 28, 2009, 2:32am
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dropzone:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11603419&postcount=682
There’s a point at which your attempts to imagine wrongdoing by Acorn, and refusal to admit that you understand the difference between voter fraud and flagging phony registrations that they legally still had to submit, crossed the line into trolling. You crossed it last fall, but nearly a year later you are still stirring the same shit. I expect this from idiots like Clothahump , but I hoped you were better than that. You are not, and I am very disappointed in you.
This is a very dishonest accusation.
Earlier in that thread, I posted as follows:
I was with you up until “…at no point is ACORN guilty of anything but occasionally hiring workers who try to scam them.” It’s true in a criminal liability sense, but not in the broader use of the word guilty. ACORN is guilty of the extremely lax management practices that encourage such fraud to happen.
The organization does not, in other words, do anything effective to discourage such fraudulent shortcuts, and indeed encourages them. I agree it’s not the same level of harm that would accompany a plot to actually cast multiple fake votes, but it creates an environemtn where an obviosu next step would be casting multiple fake votes. It should be stopped.
ACORN has already initiated a wide internal review of their processes, which in my view is an absolutely appropriate reaction to these disclosures. They’ve promised that the results of that review, and the changes they make, will be fully disclosed. I think that’s the correct approach for them to take.
Do you disagree?
I was then challenged on that point by Lightnin’ :
So I’m asked to create a hypothetical. Note that I am not claiming this is happening. I’m responding to the question about the possible hamrs that could result from a lax process of verifying voter registration information. It was in this context that I said:
In an environment where an organization learns with confidence how they can submit phony registrations? Well, it doesn’t take Hank Scorpio to plan this one: collect a few of the same people willing to falsify registrations and send them around to precincts. “Go in here and vote; tell them you’re Edward Booyah. Then get back int he van and we’ll drive you over to Eastern High; tell them you’re Samuel Withers. Then we’ll head over to…”
In high dudgeon, you then complain that I’m imagining wrongdoing, completely ignoring the fact that I’m responding to a request for an example to provide some imagined wrongdoing.