Actually, homeopathic drugs can have side effects. Amusingly, homoepathic practitioners claim there’s something called “homeopathic aggravation”* in which symptoms worsen after taking these products, though allegedly temporarily.
Any placebo, even if it is essentially water, can produce side effects in certain people. Rarely they can be serious.
*it’s aggravating that pharmacies carry these quack remedies and people spend money on them in lieu of therapies that might work.
Yeah, wrong on many levels.
But quick question: I’ve only smoked cannabis, as I’ve heard too many negative stories about edibles. Obviously, the guests were stoned and urine work came back positive. But the article states someone add “shakes” to the olive oil before serving. I was told once upon a time that you have to heat cannabis to activate it. Is that not correct?
(I do see that it was in other foods, too, but I’m curious about that point.)
Was she going to take his name or keep Svaboda? Likely she’s tossed both.
More like “WERE they thinking?”
I was wondering about how fast the groom might bail out, since his bride lacks mature judgement at best, or is quite cavalier about what she gives people without consent, at worst. Sounds like she made a lot of people sick, and if someone had had a medical condition she didn’t bother to know about, seems like it wasn’t impossible to KILL someone because stoner bride HAD to get everyone high.
I also wonder how many of her guests are now in danger of losing jobs when they fail drug tests (such as people whose jobs involve transporting others, for example). Caterer should have her business license yanked for going along with this, too. She’s as liable as the bride, since she actually went along with this.
And the people who worked for the caterer, who knew about this, should also be charged. At least one of them cavalierly mentioned it to one of the victims.
It’s called decarboxylation, heating it to about 225°F. This converts THCA in raw marijuana into THC without burning it. I don’t really know any details of the chemical reaction or what would happen if raw marijuana was ingested. THC is not the only active ingredient in marijuana, don’t know how heat affects the others.
A quick search tells me CBD can be dissolved in oil and that may have been the intention.
The version I heard was that in any population, five percent of the people cause all the bad stuff to happen, five percent of the people cause all the good stuff to happen, and the remaining ninety percent are just there.
You can die from an overdose of homeopathic drugs. Natalie Wood did.
(I didn’t want the OP to be totally disappointed by the lack of bad jokes.)
Honestly, one line from the CBS article made me do a double-take -
If convicted, Bryant and Svoboda could each face up to 5 years in prison and a $500 fine, the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office said.
While I generally consider cannabis products to be useful (my FiL uses it for pain and it’s legal here for recreational) and a generally low harm drug, I find that that sentence seems really, REALLY mild for the number of people involved and the lack of consent. I know that historically someone ‘spiking the punch bowl’ was treated as more of a prank than a crime, and this feels like more of the same.
$500 is a freaking car deductible, not a fine appropriate for drugging 40 people without their consent and then not warning them before they attempted to drive/operate machinery/go about their lives.
That is correct. My friends and I wasted an unfortunate quantity of weed in college before we knew this. It was winter; we didn’t want to go out to smoke, and couldn’t get away with smoking or cooking it in the dorms. So we thought, hey, why not just make some pasta and sprinkle shake on top like oregano? Derp.
It must be an old law, because $500 and five years in prison are not close to comparable. Five years in prison is a pretty serious penalty. $500 is perhaps a week’s wages.
Not a chemist, but I can tell you that eating hashish will definitely get you high, and I don’t think that heat figures in it’s production. It has a slower onset than smoking, obviously, but seemed to last longer and fade slower.
My one very memorable edible experience was from brownies made with hash oil. When nothing was happening an hour after eating the first one, I ate a second. Two hours later, and about the next three hours after, I was way more intimate with the toilet bowl than I’ve ever wanted to be.
If someone ever did that to me unannounced, I’d be extremely pissed and more than happy to see them face serious legal consequences.
No, in the past when I wanted an edible experience and didn’t feel like bothering to cook my pot into a brownie, I’ve just eaten raw pot. Not the most pleasant-tasting experience, but not too horribly bad. Not much worse than kale. And I got plenty high.
You guys probably either had low-quality weed, didn’t eat enough of it, or ingesting with pasta may have slowed down absorption of it enough that you didn’t feel any effects.
IANAL but the criminal conviction may just be the first step in the legal penalties Bryant and Svoboda are facing. Once they’ve been convicted on criminal charges, there will surely be a wave of civil lawsuits against them which will cite the criminal conviction as evidence. They’re probably looking at millions of dollars in settlements.
This was something I was assuming as well, although likely fewer than we’d expect given the number of close friends / family I’d expect at a wedding, but, well who knows.
Just that the fine did not seem to be in line with the crime or (as @puzzlegal pointed out) the number of possible years in jail. I also acknowledge that this is the first they they’ve been charged with*, and that as the investigation matures they may well be hit with additional charges. But it still, as I said, make me have a major double take.
*I checked a few other articles, and the specific charge they’ve been hit with appears to be “culpable negligence, delivery of marijuana and violating Florida’s Anti-Tampering Act.”
And of course it had to be Florida…
My guess is that the law is quite old, and when it was written, $500 was a chunk of change commensurate with 5 years in prison, and the law hasn’t been updated for inflation.
I think a lot of monetary penalties ought to be amended such that a penalty is calculated as a percentage of your income, with the percentage progressively increasing as income increases. And for people with a higher level of assets, it should be calculated as a percentage of total wealth. And when someone has actually profited as a result, then 100 percent of the fruits of the trespass should be seized.
That might protect Danya Svoboda to some extent. But most of the victims won’t feel any connection with Joycelyn Bryant so they’ll focus on her. Lawyers will probably be able to argue that as a professional caterer, she should have known more about the illegalities of lacing food.
Yes. In Mexico, they do this by “[however many] minimum wages,” which at least keeps up with inflation (more or less).