People, including myself, reacted with disgust and revulsion at the OP’s mocking of a murder. Twice now I have felt both sadness and anger at reading your authoritative posts about what people with false pregnancies do and do not feel. Yet you say that you were merely “impolite” in making a comment that was unkind and based on incorrect assumptions. On the other hand, you describe me as being assinine for comparing you with someone you think is trolling.
I had rather be in the presence of someone who is mean once in a while just to get attention than to suffer the conceit of of someone who has no imagination about anyone who might be different from himself.
You are cold and very, very limited. So is Lonesome Polecat. Don’t kid yourself, DTC.
I haven’t said anything either in that thread or this one aboout what people do or do not “feel” I was complaining about a misleading, jerk-around thread title. It is not in the same universe with mocking a murder. Get a grip on reality.
Zoe, I think you are reading way too much into what Diogenes has said about false pregnancies. As I recall the thread in question, his issue was that the guy titled his thread “My baby died,” and when Diogenes read the thread, he came to find out this false pregnancy story. Now, as you may be aware, I am as pro-life as probably anyone on this board, and I have had two miscarriages, which saddened me greatly. However, I would never have come onto the SDMB and title a thread “My baby died,” and make all you nice people shudder with horror, thinking that I had an actual already-born baby who died. THAT was what Diogenes had objected to, not that the guy was actually sad that the pregnancy ended up the way it did. I think he also thinks that it’s not quite seemly or manly for a guy to get all emotionally worked up over the loss of an early pregnancy, and to a degree, I agree with him. The last thing I needed when I had my miscarriages was for my husband to be an emotional basketcase over them.
This thread has been hijacked all over the place, and this is one of the weirdest hijacks of any thread I’ve seen lately, but I thought your remarks were uncalled for.
Diogenes has been pitted over this, and it was at least a couple of years ago when it all happened. That was what irritated me, that someone brought up something that happened so long ago, didn’t explain the context, and Zoe apparently went off on him without reading any of it to try to understand what was going on.
Ok, maybe another galaxy: DtC apologized for his intemperate remarks both in the original thread and in the Pit thread, while politely indicating in the Pit that he felt jerked around. It might be nice if he had some of that tone today, but then again there’s no grieving party around, so it matters less.
I for one am sympathetic to those who screw up, then back down. Now let’s roll the tape again:
There’s no remorse here, and it was posted the next day. This isn’t a post made in error: it appears to be a reflection of character.
Sorry, but comparisons between DtC and LP are really not apt. DtC said something hurtful and careless, then apologized for it multiple times and not in a grudging manner. LP laughs at rape and murder without qualification and without retraction on a new day. Yikes: it seems that LP really believes in the OP.
What about from the standpoint of reality? Let’s face it, Billary didn’t shoot Vince Foster and lie about it. So, want to compare lies between presidents? I’ll take Bill, who was indeed a stupid idiot for both getting and lying about a blowjob and likely has lied as much as your typical politician, and you take your buddy W. We can compare lies by themselves, or we can broaden the scope and compare the number of people who have died or been in any way directly affected as a result of their lies. Your call. Oh, bring cites.
Are you saying you believe that Clinton raped someone? Seriously? Let me guess, the victim is a person whose only sworn testimony was that it didn’t happen? Whose husband stated that he doesn’t remember the injuries that she was supposed to have suffered? The one where two of the people who corroborate her story are pissed at Bill for commuting the sentence of their father’s killer, and one is the guy that was fucking the victim behind her husband’s back? It’s quite possible that Clinton rapes baby kittens as a hobby, but I’d like to see some actual evidence before making that leap.
Did she rape someone as well?
Seriously, can we just get back to the fact that the OP is a fucking douchebag, and always has been, regardless of his political leanings? We have fucksticks of all stripes as members here, but I don’t recall any that took it to this level.
My only motivation in posting to this thread has been to try to illustrate to those who are open-minded enough to consider it rationally that the way conservatives are often portrayed on this board is inaccurate.
However, at this point I’ve said the things I wanted to say and I’ve made the points I wanted to make. It’s fine with me to join with you in agreeing that the OP is a douchebag and let it go at that. We’ve argued countless times around here over whose douchebag’s lies and behavior are the most egregious and never settled the point. I don’t see any percentage in going through another version of it here.
Wrong. I have no idea what makes you think that I did not read or understand the original thread.
You make my point. Although the title of his post was misleading, since when do you and DTC get to sit in judgment about what is okay and what is not okay for another human being to feel? Emotionally intelligent people are supposed to be aware of what their feelings are and deal with them in appropriate ways – not deny them or stuff them or check to see if they have a vagina first.
Unseemly? Unmanly? I can’t roll my eyes back far enough. (I hadn’t really thought that DTC is that sexist, but I can be convinced.)
And what I most strongly objected to specifically in this thread are the generalities that DTC made about people who experience false pregnancies. He didn’t know what he was talking about and he made an ass of himself.
I did not address the issues of miscarriages. I am sorry that you have had that experience. I think that many people have and are more likely to be understanding of what you have gone through. I don’t know if that helps.
A false pregnancy is uncommon and few understand. I am talking about a pregnancy in which the body reacts as if it were pregnant.
Let it go.
(Tangentially, I believe we have to get back to a place where it’s okay to let men be manly, and to have some expectations of manly behavior. Men and women are different, after all.)
[ETA: Hey, I started to compose mine first! I’ll let it stand since I don’t think it can be said forcefully enough.]
Before I let it go, I must apologize to Zoe for saying that she didn’t read the old threads. Don’t know why I made that assumption.
As for the rest of her post, I have a lot I would like to say, but it would be continuing the hijack that I thought was unfair in the first place, so I won’t. Sorry, Diogenes.